The Questionable Credentials Of Retired “Brigadier General” Keith Kerr

The gay activist, retired Brigadier General Keith Kerr, who asked the “Don’t ask, don’t tell” question at the CNN YouTube debate, and who turned out to be on Hillary Clinton’s LGBT steering committee has had his credentials called into question by some interested parties.

Credentials are important when they give you the “Absolute Moral Authority” to ask questions that are not of high importance to most Republican voters at a Republican debate, and then allow you to speechify for minutes on end about your pet issue.

Nice Deb commenter “Nick”, who has a background in Special Forces, himself has been looking into General Kerr’s background, as have some of his well connected friends.

Kerr’s bio from The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network contains some info that Nick is having trouble verifying, because “it seems that his name has been wiped from some of the most basic DOD records, and disappeared from places it used to be found”, but here is what Kerr’s bio asserts:

His principal assignments were with the 228th Military Intelligence Detachment (Division), Company B, 12th Special Forces, the 91st Maneuver Training Command, the 351st Civil Affairs Command, the 419th Military Intelligence Detachment (Strategic), and the 221st Military Police Brigade. He also was on the staff and faculty of the Sixth US Army Intelligence School (6A ITAAS).

So far, no records of the “General” have been found.

Nick: “Kerr is not coming up on any databases that will verify his association as a member of any active or deactivated (12th group) Special Forces unit, however, there are some very old associated units that were awarded the tab that require a paper search that I am told take at least two days to search. This is already underway but I am told it is very unlikely he will be found among them.

Mr Kerr is also not listed under the DOD’s Military Finder Database. What this tells us is that Mr Kerr was NEVER a member of an Active Duty Federally Recognized Military Component. This means the biggest story may well be his claim of duty as an enlisted man, but, the Military finder is not perfect, so time will tell”.

More from the bio:

 
 

He retired from the U. S. Army Reserve in 1986 with the rank of Colonel and was commissioned in the California State Military Reserve (California National Guard) on 15 March 1986, where his assignments were Inspector General and later, Chief of Staff. He was appointed Commanding General, Northern Area Command, CSMR, with headquarters at Alameda Naval Supply Depot, Alameda, CA and promoted to Brigadier General on 21 February 1991. He held this position until reassigned to State Headquarters on 31 July 1995. General Kerr retired on 1 June 1996 after 43 years of service to the United States and the State of California.

Nick: “According to his Bio, he retired first from the Reserves as a Col in 1986 and was immediately given a commission in the States National Guard. He then retired again in 1996, claiming 43 years of service, even though no less than 7 of those years he was not in any sort of military capacity or accredited Military Academy.

Now, here is where Mr Kerr gets slick. He claimed to have been a retired Army Brigider General. This is outright FRAUD, and he is betrayed by his own Bio’s “Official” title, Kerr, BG Keith H., CSMR (Ret.).

CSMR stands for California State Military Reserve. The CSMR is an UNPAID volunteer organization who’s purpose is to assist State National Guard units in preparation for their training. (Remember Candy Stripers at the hospital?)

The requirements for this coveted position are specific and plainly stated as follows: Any resident citizen over 18 years of age and under 63 and NOT a member of the active or reserve components of the U.S. military forces may apply to join.

Think that is enough? Gets better….These guys actually have to buy their own uniforms! Yep, that’s what I said. They have to buy military uniforms so they can play flunkie to No Go’s!

It is … plainly stated that the rank is recognized by only the State of California and is not recognized by the US Military.”

I have no doubt Nick will have more soon, as he seems hellbent on unmasking this man he considers to be a repugnant fraud, and a con artist.

Oops!

I didn’t know that doing the fact checking job that the media refuses to do, is called “stalking”, now.

I guess we’d better stop.

UPDATE: 

It looks like the Freepers are  looking into this,too.

Also: Human Events

Posted in Just Sayin'.

134 Responses to “The Questionable Credentials Of Retired “Brigadier General” Keith Kerr”

  1. American Politics: Theater Of The Absurd « Out West Says:

    [...] at Michelle Malkin; also, Nice Deb and commenter ‘Nick’ have uncovered something very fishy about the debate; just keep [...]

  2. janitorl Says:

    So, he spent most of his time in the Bay Area where he could slip into his black leathers and shake his fabulous booty on Folsom St.?

  3. Nick Says:

    Well is anyone surprised that there is now a Hostage situation in Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters?

  4. nicedeb Says:

    I wonder what that’s all about.

  5. Barry in CO Says:

    “I question the timing.”™

    (Use of this phrase, without the express written consent of AoSHQ™ and Major League Baseball, is strictly prohibited.)

  6. Nick Says:

    Don’t know, but I do know there are thousands and thousands of Vets and Soldiers saying, “See, I told ya this was coming”

  7. nicedeb Says:

    Live coverage, here:

    http://wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_334132330.html

  8. Rosetta Says:

    This is an excellent summation of Nick and others, as usual.

    Nice job, Big Boob Fri….I mean NiceDeb.

    *waits patiently for NiceDeb to get hint*

  9. Tom Says:

    How dare you ask non-softball questions! The nerve! Asking us to clarify our stance on issues is outrageous, and worthy of the response Oliver Twist got when he asked for more porridge.

    If you ask legitimate questions at a GOP debate, we will find a way to discredit those questions and not answer them by doing a hatchet job on you! Now get back to work. Big Brother says so.

    After all, Nick - it’s far, far more important who the questioner is than it is to get answers to the question itself, right?

    When your head gets blown off because Intel didn’t have the info it needed because a gay linguist was dismissed under DADT, you’ll be singing a different tune. It’ll go something like this: “Gurgle-gack-agggh.”

  10. Tom Says:

    Of course, the above is predicated on the idea that you actually ARE a member of our armed forces, and not some pimply 26 year old living in Mom’s basement, blogging between World Of Warcraft games and trips to the local neocon skatepark.

  11. Nick Says:

    After all, Nick - it’s far, far more important who the questioner is than it is to get answers to the question itself, right? - Tom

    Apparently it is Tom. After all, why would CNN fly someone in, purporting the often perceived, superior moral and ethical authority of an Army Brigadier General? If the question were the important issue, able to stand on it’s own merit, there would have been no need to perpetrate a fraud. Now would there? Would there have been a need to advertise him as an undecided voter? I think not.

    Imagine the outrage had FOX done that to the democrat party! There would have been house investigations, decrees, threats to pull licensing and anything else the democrat and gay community could possibly dream of.

    You can make excuses, shift blame, and play victim till hell freezes, but that doesn’t change the fact that your boy committed a fraud. He misrepresented himself, his cause, his service and those of like mind. It was He, Cnn, and Hillary Clinton that needlessly betrayed you and shifted the focus from your message to what may well be crimes. (See Wire Fraud and the Stolen Valor Act and don’t forget The Federal Election Commission)

    You and fellow travelers would be well advised to reassess those you choose to represent you, and condemn their actions when so clearly caught red handed. To defend and deny after the fact, are the actions of a child. They are only capable of fooling the same.

  12. Nick Says:

    Of course, the above is predicated on the idea that you actually ARE a member of our armed forces…bla, bla, bla…Tom

    Was tom, and I will gladly lay my DD214 down right along side Mr Kerr’s, but he will not, because his does not say he was a General!

  13. nicedeb Says:

    I was looking forward to your response, Nick.

  14. wisefool Says:

    Nick is right.
    Kerr was never a federally recognized US Army general officer. The “rank” he claims is awarded by the state of California but has no bearing outside of California.

    Many states give retiring colonels a state rank of Brigadier general, but it has no federal recognition. They can use the title at state functions, like National Guard conventions and state funerals, but they are NOT generals. In fact, they are forbidden to use the rank or claim the title outside of their state.

    Because this CNN fiasco was in Florida, Kerr was in violation of federal and state laws regarding false rank. It is a UCMJ offense.

  15. Nick Says:

    I hope it was adequate, but to be honest I was in the middle of attempting to confirm Mr Kerr’s claim to being a President for Episcopal Charities. Interestingly, Mr Kerr doesn’t seem to be mentioned among their ranks in any capacity. (becoming a familiar result) Unless of course he also uses the alias of Rod Kerr, who is simply a member.
    I honestly feel bad for people like Tom. They get their chance to shine and one of their own always climbs to the highest peak and pees on them. I guess I’d be mad too.

  16. nicedeb Says:

    I honestly feel bad for people like Tom.

    He’s a masochistic troll from AOSHQ.

    He’ll probably be back for more.

  17. Nick Says:

    Damn, that is too bad. I don’t get into all that kinky stuff. Pardon my ignorance, but is that a moonbat site? I saw a reference to it being a conservative site, but Tom seemed to be…something else.

  18. Rosetta Says:

    you’ll be singing a different tune. It’ll go something like this: “Gurgle-gack-agggh.”

    Is this karaoke night at NiceDeb’s Lounge? Sweet!

  19. nicedeb Says:

    I can believe the Episcopal Charities claim, as he lists his “partner of 26 years” as the Rev. Dr. Alvin Gomer, Episcopal priest and licensed psychologist.

  20. Nick Says:

    Well, I saw that and figured maybe that is how he got such a position. The President of Episcopal Charities is Diane Savage. Maybe she can confirm or deny Mr Kerr’s claim.

    Rosetta, you’re quite the cryptic poet. Just remember, Yellow Submarine is already taken.

    Wisefool, thank you very much for the confirm. Hopefully the FBI will pick up the case, but as badly as it backfired they may just laugh him off.
    It wouldn’t suprise me a bit to find out the hostage taker was really a Clinton operative designated to take the heat and attention off her campaign. ;-)

  21. nicedeb Says:

    Ace of Spades HQ is conservative, in a very rough around the edges kind of way, but like most conservative sites, it gets it’s share of trolls.

    Unfortunately for the trolls, the commenters at AOSHQ can be vicious little SOB’s.

    It’s really wonderful.

  22. nicedeb Says:

    It looks like the Freepers are looking into his credentials, too.

  23. Nick Says:

    Freepers?

  24. nicedeb Says:

    By the way, don’t be fooled by Rosetta.

    He’s a dude.

    A dude who looks like this:

    http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/images/35110dancing_fat_guy.gif

  25. nicedeb Says:

    Freepers.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932309/posts

  26. Nick Says:

    Well, so much for that print out and cup of coffee. You have a mean streak I see.
    I kind of wondered because I saw the transvestite thread and seemed to member Rosetta being referred to as “it”. I didn’t really care enough to confirm it, but having delt with large numbers of them in the past. I can honestly say they are by nature, hilarious individuals. I don’t think I ever met one that didn’t remind me a little bit of Flip Wilson.

  27. Joe Says:

    Anyone care to address the point that Tom made - Kerr could be a drag queen who sings “Yellow Submarine” every night in a cocktail bar and twice on Sundays - but what about the question? It doesn’t look very good to deflect the answer into his credentials - or lack thereof.

    That’s already being pointed out on WorldMagBlog - and they lack the resources to address it. Maybe someone here can. My take? DADT was pandering when it was done, and it’s pandering now to keep it. Lots of senior military folks as well as the rank and file agree. Why do we still have it in a time of war when we need every capable person to protect all of our soldiers.

  28. Joe Says:

    BTW - thanks for the Freeper link. I’ll skip dinner - they’re pretty sickening.

  29. Nick Says:

    Wow Deb. Those folks have stuff I had not even thought of, including his picture in dress greens. I might as well just sit back and wait for his Special Forces claim to be vetted.

  30. nicedeb Says:

    Joe,

    I have no interest in ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’.

    That’s the whole point. As far as I’m concerned, it’s a prudent policy. But it’s not high on my list, (as a Republican) of important issues at the moment.

    Apparently that’s a big issue for the DEMS, who use subterfuge to crash Republican debates with their pet issues.

    But how does this help Republican voters pick a candidate?
    It doesn’t.

    But that’s not the goal of the dishonest plants in these debates, is it?

  31. Joe Says:

    ” As far as I’m concerned, it’s a prudent policy.”

    Idle curiousity - why?

    “But how does this help Republican voters pick a candidate?
    It doesn’t. ”

    Actually, it might. There could, conceivably, be Republicans for whom it is an issue of concern. Like the embarrassing Freepers, for example, or (on the other side) whatever Republican families are represented in the 10,000 or so soldiers dismissed under DADT. Or even, principled Republicans such as myself who think that every soldier who brings talent to the force is really needed, and it doesn’t - or shouldn’t - matter who they sleep with.

    One General I read of said: “At least they don’t get each other pregnant.”

  32. Nick Says:

    Clap, Clap, Clap

  33. Nick Says:

    The claps were for your response Deb. Of course it will not be acceptable.

  34. nicedeb Says:

    You know what Joe? I’m not really in the mood for a gays in the Military debate. Believe me, if I thought it was a pressing issue facing the country, I’d go ahead and put dinner on hold, and engage you.

    But like I said, for me and most Republicans, that’s not really an issue, right now.

    If it is for you, great. You make sure the Democrat you’re voting for is in line with your thinking, there.

    But see, you’re not willing to stop there, are you?

  35. geoff Says:

    There could, conceivably, be Republicans for whom it is an issue of concern

    Yawn. We’re not concerned with imaginary Republicans. We don’t have to imagine them and their interests - we are them. So take your little trollish fantasy to some liberal site where they’ll get all hot and bothered by this issue.

    And a helpful hint: convince the military that they should change their policy. We usually follow their lead in matters military.

  36. nicedeb Says:

    Geoff, he says lots of senior military folks agree with him, already so it should be a breeze.

  37. geoff Says:

    Geoff, he says lots of senior military folks agree with him, already so it should be a breeze.

    That hasn’t been my experience, but most of my interaction with senior military was many years ago. But if true, more power to him. If the military wants it, I have no objection.

  38. Joe Says:

    Wow. You folks represent conservative Republicanism in this country… Not.

    “I’m not really in the mood for a gays in the Military debate.”

    Why would you be in the mood for a losing battle when thar’s taters to boil?

    And here comes “Geoff”: “We’re not concerned with imaginary Republicans. We don’t have to imagine them and their interests - we are them. So take your little trollish fantasy to some liberal site where they’ll get all hot and bothered by this issue.”

    Oh Geoff, you ARE the interests of imaginary republicans (small r intentional). You are indeed. Your trollesque (or maye Hobbitesque, since you might be well-intentioned) fantasy of a world where this doesn’t matter ended here: where it no longer matters.

    And if it no longer matters, why have the law? It’s like making bustles illegal, or specifying the proper diameter of unicycle wheels.

    Since it would be unfair for me to wallow in debate tactics like “It doesn’t matter.” and “It’s not my experience.”, here’s some empirical evidence: http://www.military-education.org/dadt/index.html

    Of pertinence: In December 2003, a CNN/Gallop Poll found that 78% of Americans believe gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military. 91% of young people ages 18 - 29 believe the ban should be lifted. Public opinion polls indicate a majority of Americans favor allowing gays to serve in uniform. A Fox News poll conducted in August 2003 shows that 64 percent of Americans now favor allowing gays to serve openly in the military, up from 56 percent in a similar poll taken in 2001.

    Oops. Your bad.

    Thank you Geoff - you’re the first imaginary republican I’ve ever met online. So glad to acquaint you with a real one.

  39. nicedeb Says:

    My first Moby!!!

  40. Joe Says:

    And o noes!: http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/gop_position_on_gay_troops_at_odds_with_expert_military_opinion

  41. Joe Says:

    Your first Moby, Deb? Does that mean you went down with the ship, I can call you Ishmeal, and you’re a Dick?

  42. JackStraw Says:

    Joe-

    That’s a very old poll that has been kicked around for quite some time. I even saw Alan Simpson use it in an editorial he wrote last spring. It appears on the SLDN site. In short, no shit.

    The one thing it doesn’t show, the same thing that geoff asked you to provide, the opinion of the military. If you actually read what geoff wrote then you would know that he that he said he would stand by the opinion of senior military officers which, in all your snark, you failed to provide.

    But to the larger point, you have tried to jack this thread into something it never was intended to be. This was a thread about CNN using someone with a highly questionable resume as the voice of authority to try and spike a Republican (capital L intentional) debate. Just like you are trying to spike this thread.

    I don’t give a damn who serves in the military as long as the military approves. Just like geoff said. Go find that poll and stop using Palm and SLDN editorials to try and prove a point you haven’t made. Facts, not editorials from gay organizations.

    Your bad.

  43. nicedeb Says:

    Hey Joe, here are some folks that are actually engaged in a debate about Gays in the Military. Maybe they’ll debate you.

    http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14809&page=2

    Don’t say I never did you any favors.

  44. Nick Says:

    My first Moby!!! - Deb

    I was wondering how long before he lost it. I love the way they run out and grab a pre-paid poll from the very same propaganda unit that just got caught in the fraud, declaring it, “The will of the people!”

  45. Joe Says:

    “But to the larger point, you have tried to jack this thread into something it never was intended to be. This was a thread about CNN using someone with a highly questionable resume as the voice of authority to try and spike a Republican (capital L intentional) debate. Just like you are trying to spike this thread.”

    This has to be the most “Tony ‘n Tina’s Wedding” debate style I’ve ever seen.

    What you’re saying is: ” I need not answer the question, for he who asked it is a ho.”

    Ho or not, the question got asked by someone, and sooner or later it will get asked again. And again. And again.

    If your focus is on the questioner rather than the question, you shouldn’t be surprised if the question becomes who the actual ho is.

    A trollop like Britney Spears can walk into DMV and dispute the points on her license to drive. Laura Bush can do the same thing. They both deserve the same answer under the law, and the exact same courtesy.

    If you think the question does not matter, that says a lot more about you than the person who asked it, no matter what his credentials are.

  46. nicedeb Says:

    But he’s the ‘real Republican’.

  47. Joe Says:

    Right, Nick, FOX News, a fraudulent declarer of itself as a wing of the people!!!

    Shrapnel much?

  48. Joe Says:

    LOL NiceDeb - a site that refers to Rush! Oxycontin, lies, perjury - family VALUES! Hilarious as a data source.

  49. Nick Says:

    Don’t say I never did you any favors.- Deb

    OMG! I don’t believe you just did that!

  50. Joe Says:

    Yeah, Nick, she did me a favor by demonstrating her Idiocracy-scale debating tactics. HI-larious!

  51. JackStraw Says:

    Joe-

    Tony ‘n Tina’s Wedding? Why don’t you just come out and say what you really mean since you’re all about honest debate tactics? You’re gay and this policy pisses you off.

    Here’s a debate question for you, Joe, since you seem incapable of staying on topic, if the military needs and wants gays so badly, why haven’t they asked that the policy be repealed?

    And for, what, the 5th time now, nobody is debating the validity of the question. What this thread, a thread started by the person who owns this blog is about, is the fact that CNN used a person who they knew was a gay activist in a highly provocative way in an attempt to make Republican presidential candidates look bad. You now have 3 people saying that if the military wants them, fine, they should have them. Prove they want them or go watch Tony and Tina again. You’re wearing thin.

  52. Joe Says:

    Thank you Jack! I’ll be sure and tell my wife of 8 years your assessment of my sexuality, as soon as I can tell your right hand my assessment of yours.

    if the military needs and wants gays so badly, why haven’t they asked that the policy be repealed?

    Under your rock, they have not. But in America, they have! Go to google and look.

    And for, what, the 5th time now, nobody is debating the validity of the question.

    Utter horseshit. The question is being treated as though the person who dared ask it should be strung up.

    What this thread, a thread started by the person who owns this blog is about,

    Public forum, anyone?

    … is the fact that CNN used a person who they knew was a gay activist in a highly provocative way in an attempt to make Republican presidential candidates look bad.

    But, they do. Look bad, I mean. In fact, the answers show a pretty lousy poll return. Provocative? I suppose Paul Revere was provocative, and Ben Franklin, and Abe Lincoln, and the SCOTUS who ordered integration were real, real provocative.

    Is PROVOCATIVE bad?

    You’re wearing thin too, but I bet you wear a size 42 pants, and you’re a neat shade of pink.

  53. nicedeb Says:

    What debating tactics?

    I’m not interested in debating you on this topic! It. does. not. interest. me.

    I think the Republican candidates answered the question adequately at the debate, but it just wasn’t to your liking. Tough shit. Move on.

  54. Nick Says:

    Yeah, Nick, she did me a favor by demonstrating her Idiocracy-scale debating tactics. - Joe

    Actually, what she did was throw you to the wolves. She’s already explained that your “debate” topic was irrelevant and off topic. Why is it you cannot accept that and find a place where they are hashing it out. I’m sure there are dozens of places that is happening as we speak.

  55. Joe Says:

    LOLOL Deb, thank you. Have a very lovely evening. You’ll have something to look back on when one of your gay realtives comes to you with a question or two.

    Maybe by then you’ll have an answer.

    Love ya babe,
    Moby

  56. Joe Says:

    You too Nick! XOXOXOXO

    “Moby”

  57. nicedeb Says:

    My answer? Simple.

    Don’t ask don’t tell.

    But I don’t really see us hashing that out over Christmas dinner.

    Because that would be gauche.

  58. Joe Says:

    The best thing here is cut and paste and email. Cannot wait to send this out, and tinyurl is a godsend.

    Boil more ‘taters, Deb. And dish it out with some tough shit. It’s like an Oklahoma Cocktail Partay.

  59. JackStraw Says:

    ooh, struck a nerve did I, Joe? By wife, you mean Bob, right?

    Hilarious. And yet, still you have no proof. Lame. Tell me more about your vaunted debating skills, Joe. You jump into a thread, try to change the subject, getting increasingly hostile when people don’t want to play your game and continue to not provide any evidence to back up your claim. Pathetic, mostly because you are so predictable.

    Provocative, you dunce, in that his question put on when the forum was billed as a chance for average Americans as opposed to professional advocates to ask their questions view a videotape. He was known to CNN as an activist and not just an average citizen. They didn’t disclose it to anyone. But wait, there’s more. He was flown across the country and given a seat front and center. He was then allowed to follow up his video with a speech, longer than some candidates got to answer questions, and then he was allowed to have a back and forth with the moderator.

    Everyone with a hint of impartiality let alone actual Republicans thought it was sleazy at best, shameful at worst. But you, master debater (pun very much intended) see no problem with it because you seek a higher truth.

    You aren’t worth arguing with, Joe. You’re kinda slow, you only think you’re quick. We aren’t laughing with you, just at you.

  60. nicedeb Says:

    By the way, Moby:

    http://lgfdictionary.wordpress.com/lgf-dictionary/#moby

  61. Joe Says:

    Yay for JackStraw’s ad hom white trash debaterator! You still think that the question was invalid because of the asker, and you employ tactics to discredit him.

    What a guttersnipe.

  62. Joe Says:

    Goodnight, you ridiculous fake Republicans. I hope you drown in your own bile and stop making the rest of us look bad.

  63. nicedeb Says:

    Nice try, Joe.

  64. Nick Says:

    Nice try, Joe. - Deb

    Do you have to put up with this often?

  65. JackStraw Says:

    guttersnipe?

  66. JackStraw Says:

    Did Joe just call me a guttersnipe? Is he going to strike me a vicious blow with his buggy whip?

    I must protest, Deb. The quality of trolls is not up to par. I demand to be insulted with slurs that are at least younger than I am.

  67. Joe Says:

    Look it up, Jack. Look. It Up.

  68. Joe Says:

    Love the Freeper ethos: If it was bad, wasn’t me. If it was bad aNd acceptable, was me. And it if it was bad, and unacceptable, was a dEMOCRAT.

  69. JackStraw Says:

    You know why it’s so easy to know who and what you are, Joe? Like every troll, you think you are mommy’s little precious, the smartest little thing what ever came down the pike and you assume anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant boob.

    You have no idea who I am. Nor do you have a clue about the background of anyone here. Yet, you assume you are smarter, more educated, more worldly because we disagree with you.

    We see your type everyday. You are as predictable as the sun rising in the morning. Your arguments are weak and when holes are poked in them you stamp your feet. You lash out because nobody wants to play your stupid game. Sad.

    But what vaults you into the category of pathetic is that you are such a poor troll. I’ve seen some beauties. Your just a wanna be.

  70. mesablue Says:

    It’s time for Thor!

  71. mesablue Says:

    The no vowel thing is fun, too. Drives retards nuts.

  72. Joe Says:

    Dude - Mommy’s Little Precious?? Methinks Jack has serious mommy issues. And maybe a man boob.

    Your own assumptions, as evidenced by your comments, make you a dirty hypocrite. I see your type, too, and I deny their loans, close thier accounts, and make ‘em squirm.

    Enjoy your boob-a-tude.

  73. nicedeb Says:

    That one *may* be his last comment.

    I’m new at the banhammer.

    Never had a troll this obnoxious.

  74. JackStraw Says:

    You’re a loan officer? Ha. Here are three little letter for you, Joe, IPO.

    I won’t be needing your services anytime soon. Those who can, do. Those who can’t get a job in a bank.

  75. JackStraw Says:

    awww…and I was having so much fun working him into a spittle flecked lather.

  76. Joe Says:

    Hilarious, both Deb and Jack. Deb, if you’ve never had a troll this obnoxious, then you should consider who you bring home. I mean, really, Deb. Do youwant people like Jack and the Freepers representing you?

    And Jack, if you won’t need my services.. well, I hope you and Deb get a gay loan officer who doesn’t hate you for your sickening beliefs. Then you might need them.]

    I find a way to make bigots like you falter in business. If you say you won’t deal with blacks, whites, gays, women, men, hispanics, or any other minority - i tell you i can’t help you.

  77. Joe Says:

    And oops - your business dies - even in crackerland, because i employ guys who LOOK like crackers, but think you all are nauseating, and who love to make your businesses drop dead.

  78. Nick Says:

    The no vowel thing is fun, too. Drives retards nuts. - mesablue

    If you are talking about the disemvoweling plugin I’ve seen that one in action and it is funny. Especially when they try multiple posts and don’t understand what is happening.

  79. JackStraw Says:

    Damn, you must have been beaten bloody with the stupid stick.

    Take your projection and shove it.

  80. Joe Says:

    O oy o oel ing e un!

  81. nicedeb Says:

    Hey guttersnipe, forget it.

    He’s really too stupid and obnoxious to poke around, anymore.

  82. Mike Says:

    Joe, I have to say you are pretty boring. If this alleged general’s identity wasn’t important, why did he (possibly) make it up?? Evidently, he felt it was important. As far as gays in the military, we do not want them. I am saying this as a member of the military. We do NOT want them. For one thing, we do not have the benefit of a carefully screened blood supply in the event of injuries/wounds. Even the American Red Cross does not allow blood donations from gay men that have engaged in sexual activity in the last 30 years (I think 1977 is the requirement). Why?? I KNOW that not all gay men have HIV/Aids, but the percentage is MUCH higher among gay men than it is among straight men.
    Again, to be clear, we in the military do NOT want gays in the military. It does not matter what public opinion polls say. Until you have been in the military, your opinion on the matter doesn’t matter.

  83. nicedeb Says:

    Thanks for weighing in, Mike.

    And thanks for your service.

  84. geoff Says:

    That was funny. Wish I’d been able to stick around for more of it. Well, not really.

    Just another troll.

    But I’ll stick by what I said - I couldn’t care less whether or not gays serve in the military. I care quite a bit, however, about how the military feels on the subject. Having gay rights advocates attempt to mandate a decision for the military shows just how out of touch they are with the armed forces.

    The only sensible way for them to change the policy is to argue their points with the military, but they know that the public is a more pliable target. As I said above, I oppose their efforts to sway public opinion to force their policy on the military, but I’d completely support the policy if it was desired by the military.

  85. nicedeb Says:

    I agree with that Geoff.

    I really only want what the military wants.

  86. forged rite Says:

    If i remember right, don’t ask don’t tell isn’t even a law, congress voted it down. But Clinton used his power as President (executive order?) and basically said this is how it’s going to be. There was a Zogby poll of the military a while back that said only 32% of soldiers thought don’t ask don’t tell should be lifted. Zogby has tilted left since 9-11, so it’s probably even lower than that. And i was reading Ace’s before i came over here and saw that you had linked this post in one of the threads, and i also saw that the troll known as Erg was commenting in that thread. So your troll Joe is probably Erg.

  87. nicedeb Says:

    Hmmm.

    That’s possible.

    But Joe started off cordial enough. Erg never does. He just launches right in with the insults.

    Plus, since when does erg come up with a name like “Joe”? He likes to use famous historical figures for handles.

    Plus, Joe was in his email address.

    Plus I got the impression that this guy was black…calling us “crackers”, and “racists”.

    Jackstraw was right. An extreme case of projection.

    My impression of Erg is that of a snot-nosed ne’er-do-well, living in his parent’s basement, with too much time on his hands, memorizing his Noam Chomsky books, and wallowing in white guilt.

  88. nicedeb Says:

    Plus, Erg has never tried Moby bit that I can remember.

    He’s a full fledged commie, and proud of it.

  89. forged rite Says:

    I missed the cracker remark. it’s always entertaining when someone accuses others of intolerance and then turns around and calls people crackers, hillbillies etc. You Tube comments are full of geniuses who do that. And the reason i mentioned don’t ask don’t tell not being a law is because it’s pointless to argue about it. If it was lifted tomorrow, gays still wouldn’t be allowed to serve in the military, and really nothing would change except the military would once again be allowed to ask if a person was gay before they joined the military. Anyway, back on topic, it’s obvious that now that CNN got caught with their plants, liberals are going to go with the “it’s not the questioner, but the question that matters” meme. Of course they didn’t feel that way when Tim Russert dared to ask a follow up question to Hillary.

  90. geoff Says:

    liberals are going to go with the “it’s not the questioner, but the question that matters” meme.

    And all they need to do to complete that thought and arrive at complete agreement with us is say: “and the questions were hooey.”*

    *couldn’t remember if the blog was G or PG.

  91. Barry in CO Says:

    >Unfortunately for the trolls, the commenters at AOSHQ can be vicious little SOB’s.

    HEY!

    I am NOT little! :-)

  92. Rosetta Says:

    By the way, don’t be fooled by Rosetta. He’s a dude. A dude who looks like this…

    That was far too kind Nice Deb. I love to DANCE!

    Did Joe just call me a guttersnipe? Is he going to strike me a vicious blow with his buggy whip?

    Hahahahahaha! Cheeri-O JackStraw sir! A well played bit of what not. Support the Republican ticket: vote Garfield / Arthur ‘80.

    Nice Deb, congratulations on attracting and sebsequently banning your first mentally ill troll. I wish The Hostages was popular enough to have one of those…oh well. I’m sorry I missed the fun. I love trolls like a fat kid loves cake.

  93. nicedeb Says:

    You are a fat kid who likes cake.

  94. geoff Says:

    There was a troll hiatus for a bit, but over the past week there seems to be a surge in visits by the weaker representatives of the breed. Lunar cycle? . . . or high school class project?

  95. nicedeb Says:

    *couldn’t remember if the blog was G or PG.

    PG-13, Geoff. Mild expletives allowed.

    Did Joe just call me a guttersnipe? Is he going to strike me a vicious blow with his buggy whip?

    I has trying to think of George Galloway’s favorite word, “popinjay” to use, but I was just too tired last night.

    I couldn’t even think of Galloway’s name to look it up.

  96. nicedeb Says:

    Sorry Geoff, I’ll delete one of those. My blogs acting funny this morning.

    I’m thinking looner cycle.

    As in LOONY!

  97. Conservative Belle Says:

    NiceDeb, I hope they didn’t come from my blog, but I have been getting them often recently and I linked to you on this story.

    Sorry, if that is what happened.

  98. nicedeb Says:

    Don’t worry about it, Belle.

    And thanks for the link.

  99. JackStraw Says:

    What’s this I hear about cake? Us guttersnipes, scallywags and ragamuffins love cake.

  100. nicedeb Says:

    LOL.

  101. geoff Says:

    Us guttersnipes, scallywags and ragamuffins love cake.</i?

    Jackanape.

  102. JackStraw Says:

    Please sir, I want some more.

  103. Mike Says:

    I would love to see his DD214 or his Form 66 (official officer’s personnel record). It would show exactly what his qualifications are and where he has been assigned. A friend of mine represents himself as an ex “special forces officer,” but he only took the correspondence course, something that does not qualify one or authorize one to wear the special forces tab on one’s uniform. Nick is correct about the California Military Reserve, I looked into joining it once.

  104. S. Weasel Says:

    Shoot. I never get trolls.

    It’s the catblogging, isn’t it?

  105. geoff Says:

    Please sir, I want some more.

    Rapscallion.

  106. JackStraw Says:

    knave

  107. Rosetta Says:

    You are a fat kid who likes cake.

    Why! I NEVER!!!!

    When did “jackass” enter the lexicon? I’ve always thought of JackStraw as a jackass.

    I’m glad trolloon called you a guttersnipe, JackStraw. That’s still cracking me up. You’re response was one of your best. You must have been drunk or something.

  108. Rosetta Says:

    Hey look! I’m Jimmy Two Times!

    Nice Deb, you can delete the first of the two. Stupid typo.

  109. bmac Says:

    Rosetta is Jimmy Two-Times!

  110. JackStraw Says:

    >>You must have been drunk or something.

    There may be in the cup
    A spider steeped, and one may drink, depart,
    And yet partake no venom, for his knowledge
    Is not infected; but if one present
    Th’ abhorred ingredient to his eye, make known
    What he hath drunk, he cracks his gorge, his sides,
    With violent hefts. I have drunk and seen the spider

    or yes, whichever.

  111. Rosetta Says:

    There may be in the cup
    A spider steeped, and one may drink, depart,
    And yet partake no venom, for his knowledge
    Is not infected; but if one present
    Th’ abhorred ingredient to his eye, make known
    What he hath drunk, he cracks his gorge, his sides,
    With violent hefts. I have drunk and seen the spider

    *hides absinthe from JackStraw*

  112. geoff Says:

    Poltroon

  113. nicedeb Says:

    Nevermind poltroon - what’s a ‘absinthe’???

  114. JackStraw Says:

    cad

  115. nicedeb Says:

    Has anyone used ‘Rabscallion’, yet?

  116. geoff Says:

    Cutpurse

    Has anyone used ‘Rabscallion’, yet?

    we used “rapscallion.” Jezebel.

  117. nicedeb Says:

    Varmint.

  118. JackStraw Says:

    Pay attention, harlot.

    lout

  119. geoff Says:

    Layabout

    Harridan

  120. geoff Says:

    Lackwit

    Shrew

  121. geoff Says:

    Lickspittle

    Tart

  122. geoff Says:

    Bootlick

    Strumpet

  123. nicedeb Says:

    Tart?!

    Now you’ve gone too far!!!

  124. nicedeb Says:

    This is good….

    The next time I have a troll who calls someone a “guttersnipe”, we are going to be prepared!

  125. JackStraw Says:

    cur

    trollop

  126. geoff Says:

    Blackguard

    Crone

  127. nicedeb Says:

    Knave!

  128. JackStraw Says:

    Knave was one of the first out of the box, hussy.

    rake

  129. nicedeb Says:

    I give up!

  130. cranky Says:

    Joe wrote: I find a w