I managed to miss this tonight, so I went looking for it on Youtube, and what do ya know…
Any Obama fans who happen to stumble upon this…please watch with an open mind. You can’t all be far left kooks.
Sad but true Joke:
Question: What do Obama and Osama have in common?
Answer: They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
RELATED:
Here’s an instructive video that explains why so many people, even when presented with so many troubling facts, (like the ones explored in Hannity’s America) are still blind to the truth. How did this happen?
MORE:
Here’s a comprehensive list via Discover The Networks of influences in “Barack’s World”.
This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines Barack Obama’s connections to a number of key individuals and organizations. In some cases, these affiliates are notable for the leftist views and objectives they share with Obama. In other cases, they are notable for their collaboration with Obama in controversial or unethical activities. In all cases, they offer a window into Barack Obama’s values and priorities. Taken as a whole, they verify Thomas Sowell’s observation that Obama has “spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.”
October, 6, 2008 at 2:44 am
This is B.S. LIES LIES OBAMA 08
October, 6, 2008 at 2:47 am
Wow. It’s really amazing that there are still people who buy this crap. Hannity is the number one master twister of the truth. Number one. I’ve never seen anything like him. I just can’t imagine what motivates him to do what he does. It has to be either money, psychosis, or some sort of brainwashing.
Obama has answered to all of this stuff for nearly two years already. The Repub dirt-diggers had all of this long ago and it’s being treated like it’s some new “epiphony” that has to be dealt with now before he ‘takes over the country and destroys us all.’
Why don’t YOU look at McCain’s so-called ‘associations’ objectively: his ties to organized crime, G. Gordon Liddy (Watergate thief) who is actually a friend, who had him on his radio program within the past year, who donated $1,000 to his campaign this year, his involvement in the Keating 5 SCANDAL, his ties to the Italian con-man (have you seen the picture of McCain on this guy’s yacht?), his shut-down of the search for MIA’s from Vietnam, the list goes on. Do all these things make John a bad man? Not necessarily. But they are far more significant and true on-going associations than any of this crap about Obama.
I think this is a bad strategy for McCain. He’s going to get crushed if the Obama campaign decides to strike back with all of his ‘associations.’ He should retire with some dignity.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:05 am
What does Bush and Osama have in common?
- they are both terrorists.
-they are very good friends
-they both have oil companies
Bin Ladens are friends of Bushes. No wonder they can’t catch the damn man. US in all its glory of the highest military intelligence, failed to intervene 911 despite of all the warnings from other nations. Failed to counteract planes in more than 30 minutes. Why? Because it was what they planned.
Cheney transferred chain of command of the military 1 week before 911, stripping military generals of the command of Norad. Why? You tell us.
Jed Bush is the contractor of the World Trade center before 911. There were reports of bombs going off inside the building as if it were demolished. Jed Bush-security. Why? You tell us.
Building 7 was demolished according to them was because it was badly damaged. It houses the CIA, IRS, the office of Guilliane. Why? You tell us.
So now, they are linking Obama to a terrorist who has done damaged when he was yet 8 years old! Pretty young to be a terrorist, eh?
Crap Fox. Crap McCain. Crap Palin. Crap Bush.
I love the picture of McCain hugging Bush – as if there is an eternal love affair. Fact is people, BUSH WILL SACRIFICE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY to get world domination. McCain is merely fulfilling his intentions. Reps run a country in fear. They run a campaign in fear, never really focusing on policies.
I do hope Obama wins.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:07 am
erratum: Jed Bush is the contractor for SECURITY for the World trade center
October, 6, 2008 at 4:09 am
Excellent program. It is time the media Obama propaganda machine was challenged with some hard hitting material that reveals Obama is not only not ready for prime time…he never will be. The hard core Obama supporters call these revelations “crap” because they can’t face the fact that they have used terribly poor judgmen in supporting this man. Obama’s “response” to these startling revelations has been weak and ineffective. Stating that he has “responded” to these stories in the past does not negate the validity of the accusations. This program should be repeated a couple more times before the November elections. Good job Hannity! Between now and November, John and Sara have to do what Harry Trulman did so well: Give em hell. When they feel the heat they will think they’re in hell.
October, 6, 2008 at 5:01 am
What a load of twaddle! Hannity must think we’re all soft in the head.
I can’t believe there are people above the age of 21 who believe this stuff.
They’re losing so they have to scare people, this is what they do! Jeez!
October, 6, 2008 at 5:48 am
I am sorry that some of you have been so spoon fed by liberal biased media for so long that you can’t even recognize the truth when you hear it!
I am absolutley terrified that this man will get in office! Hello, stupid white Americans who think this is about Democrats and Republicans. He has an anti-white, anti-American background so why do you think he is going to be any different in the future.
With ACORN’s help he stole the election in Chicago and they are stealing it now! If there is anyone out there who still has the sense to not be swayed by smooth talk, stand up and realize that you are about to be putting a man in to the office of the “Commander in Chief” who is feeding you what you want to hear and trust me you will get “CHANGE” and you won’t like it!
If there is anyone out there in the right position to do so, please STOP this man from getting into office!
October, 6, 2008 at 7:47 am
Thank you Hannity. Finally someone does some real investigating about this fraud. The Obama supporters are like those people who belong to a cult. Blinded by this fake man. Open you mind. Research Obama and you will see the truth.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:19 am
I fear hearing that Obama is the Projected next President of our country. Why can’t you all see what is right in front of you!!?? Thank you Hannity! We may not be able to swing all of them around but I’ve managed to swing a few around in my neck of the woods! NY! A few here and a few there- We can all be saved! DON”T VOTE OBAMA HUESSEIN BIN BIDEN!!!!!!
October, 6, 2008 at 8:40 am
I noticed that the Obama supporters were not able to refute any of the facts brought up in the program.
All you can do is sputter,”LIES, LIES!!!”, or fall into an unhinged BDS rant.
It’s sad. You people need to be de-programmed.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:42 am
Way to go Hannity … wake up those of you that support Obama. He’s the man if you want to live in a liberal socialist country. Me, I don’t. Rather than throw out the Obama typical response, please respond to the facts. How did he pay for Harvard? Why aren’t any of his papers available? What did he really do in Chicago. Just look at who lives in his neighborhood … coincidence? I say, no. He’s a liberal radical socialist …. just admit it. If that’s what you want, go for it.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:44 am
He’s a liberal radical socialist ….
…whose sympathies lie with Muslim extremists.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:18 am
Great segment!!! I hope you keep on this theme.
We’ve had a unusal number of tragfic events in recent times, but if this man becomes president we will have the worst hurricane ever and it will be called Obama.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:23 am
People why do you think that Hamas,the PLO, and others want him to be elected . I don,t understand how any american could vote for this man!
October, 6, 2008 at 9:49 am
Hannity did what we Pumas have been trying to do for a long time. Now, let us hope that Americans wake up before it is too late. Obama is a dangerous man and people need to be aware of this. Thanks to one person in this mound of media that is in the “tank” for the ONE… it is Hannity who tells the truth and in today’s world …it is hard to find.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:37 am
Obama isn’t radical. He’s a centrist. Watch his response to the bailout, he’s Goldman Sachs friendly.
Hannity is radical in that he doesn’t seem to believe in Government Regulation of financial markets or accounting rules. If the average citizen knew how companies are allowed to play with numbers and compared that to how their own taxes must be filed, they’d be even more annoyed than they are now.
Hannity doesn’t relate to truth, he relates to whatever supports his goal. He’s one reason why America is in decline at present. Obama will have a tough job trying to fix the mess and he’ll probably fail, the amount of debt the Bush Administration has got us into will cripple the economy and Government for decades. And it was a deliberate shifting of public taxpayers money into the hands of the rich.
October, 6, 2008 at 11:04 am
Paul….for cying out loud…who are you trying to kid? It’s Democrats who didn’t believe that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac needed regulation. Not Hannity.
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/new-ad-puts-blame-squarely-where-it-belongs-in-financial-crisis/
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/video-democrats-in-congress-defend-and-cover-for-fannie-mae-and-freedie-mac/
Who took more money from Fannie mae and Freddie Mac, than anyone else in Congress save one, (even though he hasn’t been a Senator for long?)
What more, via Stanley Kurtz::
The Woods Fund report makes it clear Obama was fully aware of the intimidation tactics used by ACORN’s Madeline Talbott in her pioneering efforts to force banks to suspend their usual credit standards. Yet he supported Talbott in every conceivable way. He trained her personal staff and other aspiring ACORN leaders, he consulted with her extensively, and he arranged a major boost in foundation funding for her efforts.
And, as the leader of another charity, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Obama channeled more funding Talbott’s way – ostensibly for education projects but surely supportive of ACORN’s overall efforts.
In return, Talbott proudly announced her support of Obama’s first campaign for state Senate, saying, “We accept and respect him as a kindred spirit, a fellow organizer.”
IN short, to understand the roots of the subprime-mort gage crisis, look to ACORN’s Madeline Talbott. And to see how Talbott was able to work her mischief, look to Barack Obama.
I don’t know if you’re a pretending astroturfer, or your just plain stupid.
But your b.s. doesn’t fly here. Not even kinda.
October, 6, 2008 at 11:05 am
I was channel-surfing last night and came across the “Obama and Friends” documentary-style program somewhere in the middle of its airing. I could hardly believe that anyone on TV would legitimize this sort of guilt-by-association stretch. I watched and listened for a minute in total disbelief before I shook off my incredulity long enough to check the station I was watching–FOX! “Well, there you go,” I said to myself. I instantly felt a little better after considering the source. Still, it seemed pretty risky, even for FOX. A few minutes later I realized it was Sean Hannity’s show, and everything made sense. I had been hearing over the past few days that McCain was now so far behind that he was going to have to start going-for-broke with the October “throw all the mud you can and hope that something sticks” strategy. Sean Hannity is the perfect mouthpiece for that! Sean, when William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, one of the Castro brothers, Hamas, or ACORN runs for president, maybe I’ll care. Until then, I hope you will continue on your quest to get Barack Obama elected. It’s very effective.
October, 6, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is just a good example of how low people will go when they find their ship is sinking. I’ve never been a Sean Hannity fan because he is so horribly biased. His pompous and bombastic attitude makes my skin crawl! I thought when he interviewed Palin, he was going to grab her and kiss her he was so sickenly sweet! Yuck!!! So he is single-handedly going to save the Dumb and Dumber ticket. He and McCain deserve one another. “Let’s start a smear campaign and take everyone’s mind off of how badly we’re losing.” Brillant!!!
October, 6, 2008 at 11:24 am
Must be a full moon, because the Obamabots are out in full force…
October, 6, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I used to be for Obama until I saw this. Even if half is true it is still too much for me.
October, 6, 2008 at 12:28 pm
What’s wrong with telling the TRUTH?
If these are lies or “smears”, lets hear the Nobama supporters refute the facts!
It’s always Ad hominem attacks on the messenger.
This reminds me of last weeks VP debate. Biden told 14 flat out lies…with the AP ”factcheckers” seemed to miss them the very next day saying that Biden won the debate. How can you win a debate if most of what you said is untrue?
Oh yeah, don’t report it and keep the masses ill informed…that’s how.
October, 6, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I’ve never been a Sean Hannity fan because he is so horribly biased.
HAHAHA!
Hannity’s never touted himself as anything but a proud “Reagan conservative”. Of course he’s biased.
Are conservatives not allowed to have their own shows, now?
Tina’s arguments: Fox bad…. “Guilt by association”….
Weak. That’s the best you’ve got? You might want to dab that koolaid dribbling down your chin.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm
To Deb: I repeat, when one of the actual terrorists runs for the presidency, I will pay attention, otherwise don’t waste my time. An intelligent electorate can sift through all the noise coming from both sides. In my humble opinion, Hannity does nothing to promote his cause by being one of the noisiest of the noise-makers. Obama must be thanking his lucky stars that the man won’t shut up!
October, 6, 2008 at 1:06 pm
It says nothing to you about his judgment, character, and political ideology that he has an extensive background with radicals?
October, 6, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Noise
October, 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Call it noise if you must, but that’s who he is.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Once again, we see the Obamanites have found this website and are spewing their propaganda, and their hatred for those who speak the truth about their god, Obamassiah. Hannity is doing a great service to the American public. In fact, he is who inspired me to begin my own research of Obama back in March 2007. And since I am an historian, truth is absolutely paramount to me. Hannity is exposing Obama for who he really is. Obama wants to conceal who he is, just like his father, the father of lies, so he lies about his radical associations. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will know which one speaks the truth. And those who don’t have eyes to see and ears to hear will continue down that road of delusion and drink from the same Kool-Aid well which flows with abundance from Obama’s throne, until one day they will find that they’ve been duped. Sadly, for most, that day will not come until they die and then their eyes will be opened, but too late, they will no longer have time to repent.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:26 pm
all these “associations” are loose at best…so what are you so afraid of? what do you ACTUALLY think obama will do if he gets elected? Do you think he is going to get the US military to bomb isreal or something?
All I hear from these republican (note: not conservative) dingbats going on about how obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing, but they don’t give specifics about what actual danger obama poses. Mccain/palin is a wolf in wolves’s clothing so whats the difference?
Also note I am by no stretch of the imagination an Obama fan. I cannot vote for anyone who has an agressive policy like these to candidates, or that has voted for the renewal of the patriot act. The fact of the matter is Obama isn’t any sort of radicalist, in fact hes far from it. he is really just the same old shitty politician we have been seeing.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Okay, I’ll spell it out for you:
-He will weaken the U.S. military, support the enemies of the United States and Israel,
-socialize our healthcare system,
- raise taxes,
-destroy the U.S. economy, with a continuance of the disastrous (Liberal) policies that have brought us to where we are, today.
-Indoctrinate our youth with an even more radical agenda in the public schools.
-Chill free speech with an imposed “fairness doctrine”, and threats of lawsuits, (as he’s already done on the campaign trail).
To name just a few things.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Okay, I’ll spell it out for you:
-He will weaken the U.S. military, support the enemies of the United States and Israel,
Both Candidates are WAY to agressive with our military. We should not be out policing the world and nation building. This is why the rest of the world hates us, and why we are practically inviting it.
-socialize our healthcare system,
Don’t agree with socialized healthcare and agree that he will do that. but this isn’t the result of him hanging out with terrorists
- raise taxes,
Both candadites have out of control spending and you gotta pay the deficit somehow or the fed prints more money and the dollar sinks more.
-destroy the U.S. economy, with a continuance of the disastrous (Liberal) policies that have brought us to where we are, today.
News flash: both the candidates support the fed which prints money in secrecy, with no oversight, backed by no hard assets. Once confidence in the dollar fades we are going to be in the shit-hole. by the way who do you think has been in charge of the executive branch these years? because in case you didn’t know thats what Obama is running for. and I’m pretty sure the last 8 years have been republican controlled
-Indoctrinate our youth with an even more radical agenda in the public schools.
ROFL. please explain this better cause I have a feeling your going to say something really funny.
-Chill free speech with an imposed “fairness doctrine”, and threats of lawsuits, (as he’s already done on the campaign trail).
We have seen no evidence of a “fairness doctrine” being imposed. I don’t know where you get your facts from on that one
true conservatives support ron paul and bob barr.
October, 6, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Since we all know that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, I’m looking forward to Hannity’s “McCain & Friends: The Keating 5 Savings and Loan Scandal.”
October, 6, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Both Candidates are WAY to agressive with our military.
That’s not the point, even if it was true.
Both candadites have out of control spending
Untrue.
by the way who do you think has been in charge of the executive branch these years?
By the way, who do you think blocked the executive branch’s attempts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
We have seen no evidence of a “fairness doctrine” being imposed.
What he says and what he says a bit later are two entirely different things. Today he claims he opposes it, but looking at his attempts to suppress the press, I’m not very confident that he’ll keep his promise.
October, 6, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Since we all know that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, I’m looking forward to Hannity’s “McCain & Friends: The Keating 5 Savings and Loan Scandal.”
Why would he bother? McCain was exonerated of any wrongdoing, as this article in the left-wing Slate attests:
http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
October, 6, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Don’t agree with socialized healthcare and agree that he will do that. but this isn’t the result of him hanging out with terrorists
It’s the result of hanging out with radicals.
October, 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Obama is a centrist.
BWUAHAHAHAHA!!!
Doesn’t get much funnier than that. Being the most liberal Senator means you are a centrist?
Ground control to major dumb ass.
Obambi has never been center anything. Activists are not usually known for their down the middle viewpoints. “Hi, we’re here to talk to you about scholarships for unicorns — and bunnies.” Yeah, right.
All you hear from Barack’s camp is the same old crap that pours out of Pelosi and Reid’s mouth on a daily basis.
Bush is evol. Rethuglicans are supporters of the Chimpy McBushitlerburton.
Divide. Divide. Divide.
Oh, and you’re a racist.
October, 6, 2008 at 2:36 pm
That was precious, wasn’t it?
October, 6, 2008 at 2:36 pm
That’s not the point, even if it was true.
It’s true and it is a big deal. It’s the exact reason why people want to bomb the shit out of us. Every time there is a civilian casualty or collateral damage from our reckless foreign policy it pisses someone off, and we are mounting more of an offensive against ourselves. this should be the number 2 issue (behind the economy which both candidates are also wrong on)
By the way, who do you think blocked the executive branch’s attempts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
You are right here although its not the most important issues, although it is important to understand why. It’s not because he was hanging out with radicals. it’s because as I said before he is like every other piece of shit politician, including Mccain.
Untrue.
wrong. The runnaway military budget to fight our reckless wars are really putting us in the hole with china AND yes the saudis. Mccain wants us to stay in iraq, and will have in his cabinet the same people who are eyeing up iran.
What he says and what he says a bit later are two entirely different things. Today he claims he opposes it, but looking at his attempts to suppress the press, I’m not very confident that he’ll keep his promise.
Mccain is as guilty as Obama is of this. Mccain has even more open attempts to suppress the press from accessing Sarah Palin. Again it stems from the games of politics which is appealing to independent voters but then voting along party lines to get support from other politicians
btw socialized healthcare isn’t really radical. A lot of people believe it has to do with the life liberty and persuit of happiness thing (the life part). I however disagree with that philosophy though it is debatable.
October, 6, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Deb, Do you know the definition of radical? Have you looked in a mirror lately? The radical left is not that much different than the radical right.
As to your comment about McCain being exonerated, I thought we were talking about the candidates’ past associations not indictments..
October, 6, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Tina, describe my radical positions for me.
And McCain is not friends with any anti American radicals or terrorists that I know of. That’s what we’re talking about.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:01 pm
btw socialized healthcare isn’t really radical. A lot of people believe it has to do with the life liberty and persuit of happiness thing (the life part). I however disagree with that philosophy though it is debatable.
I would beg to differ. Having the government take over such a large percentage of our economy is a radical idea.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Well, for starters, saying that a presidential candidate will “support enemies of the United States” is a pretty radical statement.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I disagree. Healthcare isn’t huge as a whole in terms of the economy…now if the pharmaceutical industry was encompassed by the gov. Then I would be scarred as hell. But as a whole socialized medicine has been talked about for years. Canada is a prime example of how they still have a strong free market but socialized healthcare. I still disagree with it….but I am playing devil’s advocate to show that it is far from “radical”
October, 6, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Since we all know that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, I’m looking forward to Hannity’s “McCain & Friends: The Keating 5 Savings and Loan Scandal.” – C.K.
Not to worry, C.K. While you’re so concerned about Fox being mean to The One, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, NPR, Time Magazine, Newsweek, ABC, CBS, NBC, and all the rest will handle the “sliming” McCain you so desire.
Fair and balanced enough for ya?
October, 6, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Nikoras, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Tina, for God’s sake…I’m looking at the man, his associations, his background, even some of the people he currently has on his campaign staff, or recently had to leave….in other words, it’s an educated guess.
You refuse to take any of that into consideration.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Q: “Why would he bother?”
A: “Poor judgment,” the same thing you’re trying to nail the next president with.
It must feel empowering to always get the last word on your niceblog. But the real last word is going to come down on Nov. 4th. And the only radicals responsible for that glorious outcome will be Republican.
There’s gonna be a big mess when your head explodes.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Well, for starters, saying that a presidential candidate will “support enemies of the United States” is a pretty radical statement.
Yeah, you’d think that, until you look at the facts and realize that the Dems have been in supporting America’s enemies for decades.
Do soem research into the help that Ted Kennedy gave to the Soviet Union during the 80s. And did you know that John Kerry is considered a hero to the Vietnamese people for his efforts in helping them win the Viet Nam war? He is actually enshrined in their Victory museum.
So, honestly, it’s not all that radical to say that many, if not most on the left wholeheartedly support and protect America’s enemies. The proof is there, if only you bothered to open your eyes.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:20 pm
There’s gonna be a big mess when your head explodes.
Ooooooh, now there’s some damn fine intellectual arguments you’re putting forth there, C.K.
Maybe your big brain can try this one:
Could you please enlighten us as to what Obama has done that would actually prove he is qualified to be President of the US and leader of the free world? Just one thing.
Take your time. I’ll be back later to see
your responseif you respond. If you are anything like the other Obama supporters of whom I’ve asked this question, this should stump you for a few days, at the very least.October, 6, 2008 at 3:23 pm
bud that is what we call a strawman
. As I have been saying, Obama is a piece of shit, just your typical piece of shit. To assume that there is something more nefarious going on is just ridiculous.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:26 pm
ROFL at that comment they made about hamas. Well the KKK supports Mccain in this election, that must mean Mccain shares their view right?
October, 6, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Nikoras, You are correct to imply that McCain no more approves of the KKK than Obama does Hamas. Anyone who has ever run for office, from local dog catcher to US president, will tell you that you can’t pick your supporters and you can’t tell someone that they can’t support you or vote for you.
October, 6, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Wiserbud, He turned 35 (you only asked for one).
October, 6, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Well, that about sums up his experience.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Wiserbud, He turned 35 (you only asked for one).
…and that pretty much heads the list.
It’s the exact reason why people want to bomb the shit out of us.
Nyoop. There are many other reasons that they want to do violence to the West. But in any case, the original point that you’ve been avoiding (despite my gentle reminder) was that Barack would weaken our defense capability – we see that as an ill. And as far as your understanding of the “reckless war,” let’s just say that I consider it a tad shallow.
McCain has prevented the press from accessing Sarah Palin? So what? That’s completely different – not volunteering for an interview is not at all the same as intimidating news media to prevent them from publishing a story.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:01 pm
the republican ticket forfeited their right to the experience argument with their VP pick
October, 6, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Now if McCain had friends who were here, bombing government buildings and offices at the same time he was being held as a POW, I’m pretty sure that the left would find that significant. When it is an inexperienced neophyte who has done work training youth to be professional malcontents and working with organizations that continually get caught engaging in voter fraud, they are willing to call it ‘community organizing’ and will spin at any speed necessary to avoid actually looking at what that means, why he has done it, and who mentored him “into the profession”. And if anyone dares to look too hard and starts calling his record and his own words to the attention of the people who need to know, i.e. the electorate, he’ll alternate between playing the race card, despite being the only one to do so, and trying to get the DOJ and any other law enforcement organization to muzzle the inconvenient facts that his campaign keeps bleating are lies. Obama doesn’t have the character to sit in the Oval Office and will forever taint our nation and its posterity, whatever remains, if he gets elected.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Nyoop. There are many other reasons that they want to do violence to the West. But in any case, the original point that you’ve been avoiding (despite my gentle reminder) was that Barack would weaken our defense capability – we see that as an ill. And as far as your understanding of the “reckless war,” let’s just say that I consider it a tad shallow.
Shallow? The 9/11 comission report cited the reason for the attacks, backlash from our interventionist foreign policy. You wouldn’t want Saudi troops basing themselves in America would you? Don’t get me wrong this policy has existed since the times of LBJ and nixon too. We were weaken our defenses every time we fight these silly proxy wars. Yes I do adopt Ron Paul’s philosophy on foreign policy. If you think “they hate us for our freedom” you are seriously deluded.
McCain has prevented the press from accessing Sarah Palin? So what? That’s completely different – not volunteering for an interview is not at all the same as intimidating news media to prevent them from publishing a story.
How about that little stunt where they blocked the press in Palin’s meeting with those foreign leaders? and not volunteering for being interviewed when you have never been seen on the national stage before is dangerous. Both Obama and Palin are seriously lacking in experience, but Obama atleast allows for interviews. The man has balls to go on Bill O’s show you gotta give him that…thats the equivalent if Mccain went on Keith Olberman’s show
October, 6, 2008 at 4:13 pm
It’s been fun, guys. Gotta go . . . Chris Matthews is on!
Your different points of view are very enlightening and appreciated. Our right and opportunity to debate, disagree, and even take cheap shots at each other is what makes our country the greatest in the history of the world!
Beginning Nov. 5th, I will make an honest effort to be sympathetic to those who did not vote for President Obama.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:15 pm
the republican ticket forfeited their right to the experience argument with their VP pick
You are soooo right. A VP with 2 years experience as a governor and tenure as a mayor before simply cannot compare to a cypher with no discernable record other than being in favor of letting babies who survive their mother’s attempts to murder them die, and continually supporting Fannie and Freddie despite clear evidence that they were failing. What were we thinking?
Pull the other leg, genius. It plays ‘Jingle Bells’.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:15 pm
My point on the above post is that both candidates will both weaken our defense by keeping our aggressive, preemptive, interventionist policies. And unfortunately we are losing allies from this.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:21 pm
The more in depth you go with your answers the more you will find yourself straying from your initial point, which is that obama is a radicalist based on his past associations. Fannie and Freddie are the result of good old fashion political corruption and lack of foresight. and from the looks of your rhetoric blackiswhite I put you on the intelligence level of the “9/11 is a conspiracy” folks. The debate with deb and geoff was atleast a little more spirited
October, 6, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Sean, Thank you.
October, 6, 2008 at 4:39 pm
9/11 was a conspiracy, carried out by muslims who believed that if they extinguished their lives killing infidels (that’s us, btw), then they get to spend eternity in paradise being serviced by 72 virgins apiece. While I know the “moral equivalency” crowd loves to try to say Christianity isn’t any different, the fact is that Christianity doesn’t reward wanton murder, does not condone the slaughter of innocents, and holds such behavior reprehensible. It obvious that you want to believe that it is our presence in other countries that makes us a target, but if you believe that, you simply are not paying attention. They want us dead because we refuse to accept their moon-god and pray to a rock. Someday, you might grow up enough to actually understand and recognize honest-to-goodness threats to our health and well-being, but only if people with character and an understanding of what the stakes are get elected. If it is Obama, then you should just take a good look around, because the world you know will not exist in two years and the only lesson worth remembering will be “Some animals are more equal than others.”
October, 6, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Obama’s friends and “associates” reflect on him completely. This is true of anyone. You become more and more like the people you choose to be close to in life. He is NOT the man we should vote into leadership. It’s not a popularity contest, it’s our country, our freedoms, our rights. The truth hurts those who have a vested interest and his supporters have a mental vested interest so it’s understandable they are in denial. It’s hard to see the bad side of someone you think you like. But the bad side is dangerous. It’s very clear that Obama’s agenda is wrong for our country.
October, 6, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Please don’t quote Orwell while supporting the party that has had the largest executive encroachment in US history.
October, 6, 2008 at 5:14 pm
kelly then why not look at the people Obama currently surrounds himself with rather than someone he sat on a board with on Chicago several years ago instead of cherry picking a few bad apples?
October, 6, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Shallow?…
You missed the point I made there, and are stilla avoiding the original point.
every time we fight these silly proxy wars
No, we probably would have been better off fighting it as a proxy war. If we could have found a proxy.
How about that little stunt …
Still doesn’t compare to intimidating news organizations to prevent them from publishing stories, or having news people arrested when they’re standing on a public sidewalk. Barack has a lot of private conversations as well – we don’t bust his chops for them. And as far as granting interviews – perhaps if the media hadn’t seized upon every absurd and insulting rumor, and weren’t currently digging through all the minutiae of her life (which they haven’t done with Biden, Obama, or even McCain), she might have entertained more requests for interviews.
Of course, it’s moot at this point – she’s given interviews, she’s done the debate – it’s all over but the whining.
October, 6, 2008 at 6:11 pm
bud that is what we call a strawman
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No, a strawman would be unsupported by facts. Hence the term: strawman. I only gave you two of them any, many examples of Dems and leftists working against the interests and security of the USA. Can you find me any examples of Republicans or any one on the right actively working against the interests of this country by consorting or supporting our enemies? (and sorry, opinions don’t count. I’m asking for actual evidence.)
As I have been saying, Obama is a piece of shit, just your typical piece of shit.
But as long as he’s your piece of shit, your good with that. Oooooookay…….
To assume that there is something more nefarious going on is just ridiculous.
Yeah, all those leftists who have aided and abetted the enemy, both foreign and domestic, are all just bumbling clods who’s interests just happen to fall perfectly in line with those who wish to see our country destroyed.
Even if I give you that, how in the world does that make it any easier to support them? Either they are active, willing enemies of our country or they are complete and total fools.
Hmmmmm……
Either way, I’m not real comfortable putting them in positions of power. YMMV.
October, 6, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Wiserbud, He turned 35 (you only asked for one).
Well, that is one hell of an accomplishment. fine work, Obama. You have been able to keep yourself alive for 35 years. Wonderful.
Tell me, Tina, do you believe that making it to 35 years old is such a laudable accomplishment because you still have about 25 years to go to equal that amazing achievement?
October, 6, 2008 at 6:24 pm
our aggressive, preemptive, interventionist policies.
Good. We agree. And the next time there is an earthquake, tsunami, or any other natural or man-made disaster anywhere in the world, f ‘em. No more help from us. No more money from us. Nothing.
How come the only time we are expected to be the big Daddy to the whole world is when they can’t handle it themselves? Other than that, they scream “Leave us alone!!”
I would love for us to stay out of the rest of the world’s affairs, (as if that were possible) as long as we not are expected to step in and save everyone else’s ass every time a situation arises that they can’t handle.
Here’s an idea for ya: Ask the radical muslims to keep their business to themselves and not try to turn the entire planet’s population into muslims under the threat of beheading. See how that works out for you, then get back to me about our evil interventionist policies.
October, 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Please don’t quote Orwell while supporting the party that has had the largest executive encroachment in US history.
Name one right you have lost. Name one person you know who has been subject to these Orwellian tactics you so flippantly assign to this administration? Oh, we are listening to phone calls made by al Qaida? boo frickin’ hoo.
Let me clue you into something, superstar: you are not important enough to be spied on. Does that hurt your precious ego? Must you convince yourself that you are being watched because that makes you feel more important?
People like you are the first ones to scream about “connecting the dots” and “Protect me!!”, yet you want to complain about how that is done for you.
So please, spare me the tinfoil hat exaggerations. You want to know what it’s like to have your freedoms encroached upon, ask any person who lived in the Soviet Union under Stalin or even Yeltsin.
Baby, you ain’t seen nothing. But it does expose your complete lack of knowledge re: world history. Hope that works out for you.
October, 6, 2008 at 6:43 pm
By the way, you want Orwellian?. Go to Missouri and say something critical about Obama. Watch how quickly the “Missouri Truth Squads” come knocking on your door.
Please, read ’1984′ before you attempt to make some high-minded, pseudo-intellectual comparison to this administration and what Orwell was actually writing about.
October, 6, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Please don’t quote Orwell while supporting the party that has had the largest executive encroachment in US history.
I’ll quote Orwell because it is appropriate. Obama and his buddies would like nothing better than to redistibute wealth, and when it comes to people like him, they always seem to make sure that it is everyone else’s wealth and not their own. It is one thing I can count on him to deliver. As for the rest of your intellectual vomit, spare me the fevered hand wringing and breathless gasps about a “shredded Constitution” because every single time I have asked one of you drama queens to explain exactly how your own personal rights have some how been violated by this administration or the Patriot Act…you know, that law passed by CONGRESS, and for all the histrionics and cries that the sky is falling, not a single blessed one of you can come up with an example. As for me, I understand that the Constitution is not a suicide pact, and I could care less if the government is listing to phone calls to terrorists who would like nothing better than to kill us, and as an officer of the court, such surveillance troubles me not. But perhaps the presence of perspective prevents my world view from being so convoluted as to believe that such things are injurious to liberty.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Obama is not my piece of shit I do not support him or senator McCain as i have said earlier they are both clowns.
You want to talk about a loss of rights lets talk patriot act. Whenever the government feels like it can declare someone a terrorist and make them subject to a military tribunal where the judge and jury are appointed by the executive branch. They can withhold evidence from you at your own trial saying it’s classified. They can hold you indeffinetly without giving you a fair trial. Yes obama voted for the renewal of this bill and this is one of the reasons I do not support him. This also supports my statement that he is the regular type of jackass and not the “super evil I’m going to destroy america”‘ jackass. And how about Cheney claiming that he can evoke executive privilage yet not disclosing information required by the executive branch. I consider that encroachment. If
btw I am watched only because I work in the stock room of a chem lab and they need to keep track of that stuff
and yes 1984 was an amazing book and I think you should reread it then evaluate our situation
Good. We agree. And the next time there is an earthquake, tsunami, or any other natural or man-made disaster anywhere in the world, f ‘em. No more help from us. No more money from us. Nothing.
I never said anything about foreign aid. but stay out of places like Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, SAUDI ARABIA, Iraq, Greneda, Panama, Bosnia, and Cosovo. We had no business being in any of these countries.
For some reason people make me out to be a dem around here. When I am infact what I would describe as a soft core libertarian. In other words I pretty much agree with Ron Paul with the exception of wiping out ALL income tax and dissolving a few key government agencies: EPA FDA etc.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:40 pm
You want to talk about a loss of rights lets talk patriot act. Whenever the government feels like it can declare someone a terrorist and make them subject to a military tribunal where the judge and jury are appointed by the executive branch. They can withhold evidence from you at your own trial saying it’s classified. They can hold you indeffinetly without giving you a fair trial. Yes obama voted for the renewal of this bill and this is one of the reasons I do not support him. This also supports my statement that he is the regular type of jackass and not the “super evil I’m going to destroy america”‘ jackass. And how about Cheney claiming that he can evoke executive privilage yet not disclosing information required by the executive branch. I consider that encroachment.
Next time, you can save us a lot of time and trouble by just saying “No, I can’t point to any example of how MY rights have been affected by the Patriot Act and minutia”. And if you don’t think that redistribution of wealth is “I’m going to destroy America evil”, then your understanding of the principals of this country is as shallow as your analysis.
October, 6, 2008 at 8:51 pm
this redistribution of wealth is the typical democrat tax hikes. I don’t approve of it but you’ll live with them taking ~10% more of your income. You don’t think having the right to a fair trial is important? you think the issue of torture isn’t important? you are the one who is shallow. Remember our democracy is based on the rule of the majority and protecting the rights of the minority.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:19 pm
You don’t think having the right to a fair trial is important?
Two things:
1. Again, if you can’t answer the question asked, then stop talking.
2. I am an attorney, genius. I know the myth and the reality concerning a ‘fair trial’, and I also know that no one is in danger of losing their right to one, all hand wringing and cries to heaven aside.
As for the tax hikes, 10% would be conservative, and I was also referring to their higher aspirations of ‘nationalizing’ various industries because they don’t like them. Occasionally one of them screws up and gives voice to these ambitions out loud, like Maxine Waters did earlier this year.
With regard to torture, if they have made it their business to kill Americans of all size, shape, age, color, and creed and torturing them might lead to information that prevents other terrorist acts, then HELL YES, and I’ll gladly give them tongs, blow torch, and battery cables necessary. Its called having a family and business, neitherof which need to be destroyed by rock worshipping savages determined to convert me or cut off my head. Its bad enough that my own government does what it can to interfere with my business and how my family and I live our lives. I’ll not shed a tear for the subhuman savages. They get better treatment then you or I could expect if left to their tender mercies.
Remember our democracy is based on the rule of the majority and protecting the rights of the minority.
Piffle. We are constrained by a tyranny of the minority, which is perfectly acceptable until they openly advocate for results that defy logic and reason. Then it is time for the adults to say “No.”
October, 6, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Where did I say that our rights were being infringed upon in any way? You really need to work on your comprehension skills. I asked you to tell me where they have been infringed.
In addition, you should probably try to get your story straight.
spare me the fevered hand wringing and breathless gasps about a “shredded Constitution” because every single time I have asked one of you drama queens to explain exactly how your own personal rights have some how been violated by this administration or the Patriot Act…you know, that law passed by CONGRESS, and for all the histrionics and cries that the sky is falling, not a single blessed one of you can come up with an example.
You accuse us of being histrionic drama queens who are upset with the loss of our rights and then say that we can’t provide you with an example, like we are ones crying about our rights supposedly being trampled.
You then write the following:
You want to talk about a loss of rights lets talk patriot act.
Which is it? Are we the histrionic drama queens or are you? Can you provide me with any examples of anyone being subjected to those horrible, horrible events you are so worried about? I mean, other than someone who wasn’t deserving?
I never said anything about foreign aid. but stay out of places like Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, SAUDI ARABIA, Iraq, Greneda [sic], Panama, Bosnia, and Cosovo[sic]. We had no business being in any of these countries.
Why just those? If our foreign intervention, by it’s very nature, causes people to hate us, wouldn’t our intervention anywhere in the world cause this animosity towards us by the citizens of that country? Or are you only cherry-picking the places you believe we should stay out of, because you have decided so? What about Kenya? South Africa? Haiti? Rwanda? Darfur? Are these places okay?
Sorry, but it’s an all or nothing prospect, as much as you would like to pick and choose the “good” places where we can intervene. And, unfortunately, we are the biggest, richest, most powerful country in the world. If we don’t help, who will?
Remember our democracy is based on the rule of the majority and protecting the rights of the minority.
Heh. However, lately it seems we all have to capitulate to the wants and desires of the minority, as opposed to simply respecting and protecting their rights. Otherwise we are accused of being hate-filled bigots.
Or, to quote Orwell:
“All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.”
October, 6, 2008 at 9:26 pm
spare me the fevered hand wringing and breathless gasps about a “shredded Constitution” because every single time I have asked one of you drama queens to explain exactly how your own personal rights have some how been violated by this administration or the Patriot Act…you know, that law passed by CONGRESS, and for all the histrionics and cries that the sky is falling, not a single blessed one of you can come up with an example.
Uhh, wiser? That was me to him, and as such, it made sense.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:27 pm
oh, and since we seem so enraptured with Orwell here tonight:
In response to your question regarding torture. here’s a very apt quote:
” We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. “
October, 6, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Uhh, wiser? That was me to him, and as such, it made sense.
Ah. My bad. It wasn’t quoted or italicized, so I didn’t realize he was quoting you.
I thought he came across as a little schizoid in those two comments.
My apologies to both you and Nikoras for attributing that comment to him.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:47 pm
“With regard to torture, if they have made it their business to kill Americans of all size, shape, age, color, and creed and torturing them might lead to information that prevents other terrorist acts, then HELL YES, and I’ll gladly give them tongs, blow torch, and battery cables necessary. Its called having a family and business, neitherof which need to be destroyed by rock worshipping savages determined to convert me or cut off my head. Its bad enough that my own government does what it can to interfere with my business and how my family and I live our lives. I’ll not shed a tear for the subhuman savages. They get better treatment then you or I could expect if left to their tender mercies.”
This is very troubling to me. I am not a religious man by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know that we should not stoop to the level of those subhuman savages or we are just as guilty as they are.
“Why just those? If our foreign intervention, by it’s very nature, causes people to hate us, wouldn’t our intervention anywhere in the world cause this animosity towards us by the citizens of that country? Or are you only cherry-picking the places you believe we should stay out of, because you have decided so? What about Kenya? South Africa? Haiti? Rwanda? Darfur? Are these places okay?”
In my opinion none of these places are okay to send our troops into. I wasn’t about to do any research so i listed those that came to mind. My brother is an Lt. in the army and if he is killed in action I would rather have It be directly defending america, because that is their job…not defending the iraqi police force or someone in darfur
This is straying from the argument but heres an opinion that I’d like to throw out there with respect to darfur. If would could convince NATO to arm every man woman and child in the villages which are being ravaged. The Janjaweed might think twice about raiding a villiage when everyone is capable of defending themselves. Granted this won’t end the violence, but it least it won’t be purely ethnic cleansing.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:54 pm
ah sorry I got lost in my own thoughts and didn’t look it over to revise that “would” should be “we” in the last paragraph second sentence
Basically if we are to protect our allies through military force we need to do it right and declare war. Put that tenth amendment to work.
October, 6, 2008 at 9:57 pm
This is very troubling to me. I am not a religious man by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know that we should not stoop to the level of those subhuman savages or we are just as guilty as they are.
Your moral relativism is disturbing. If you are going to fight gutter dwellers, sometimes you have to get into the gutter to do it. Is it pretty? No. Is it desirable? No. Is it sometimes necessary? Yes.
I prefer not to allow my family or my country to be destroyed by these vermin, simply because I don’t want to get my hands dirty in defense of those things I hold dear.
In my opinion none of these places are okay to send our troops into.
So then you would allow the threats to our country continue to grow until they bring their unique brand of “warfare” to our shores.
Oh, wait, we already tried that. Didn’t work out so well for us, did it?
October, 6, 2008 at 10:00 pm
This is very troubling to me. I am not a religious man by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know that we should not stoop to the level of those subhuman savages or we are just as guilty as they are.
Ah yes, the “troubling” meme. The last resort of the whisker-stroking intellectuals everywhere when presented with a slice of reality that might challenge them to get their hands dirty in order to preserve what they have. Don’t worry, Nik. Other people will work and bleed and die to keep you safe, so you can engage in lofty pontificating judgements of them from afar. As for the “guilty” concern, it simply reveals how little you understand about the conflict in which we are all engaged, whether you like it or not. It is not a legal issue. At their core, wars never are. It is about ideology, and in this case, it is the 5th century vs. the 21st. Death vs. Life, and yes, Evil vs. Good. When a mad dog threatens the people on your street, you do not worry about its guilt or innocence. It simply is a malvolent presence to be removed before it can cause injury or death. This is not terribly different, other than the fact that the perpetrator might have information that could allow us to put down other mad dogs before they cause mayhem. If you have trouble accepting that, then simply step off to the side, and allow others to sacrifice in order to keep you safe, and if you feel the need to say anything, a polite “thank you” to those who have taken care of business for you is all that is appropriate.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:11 pm
When a mad dog threatens me I have no problem putting him down. I’m not advocating pacifism or anything, but there is no need for torture and there are many ways around this. Drugging them is one way to get information and it is proven to work.
“So then you would allow the threats to our country continue to grow until they bring their unique brand of “warfare” to our shores.”
If you are referring to 9/11 it was our foreign policy that pissed bin laden off and formed al Qaeda. The more we stay in the middle east militarily the stronger they grow.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:13 pm
by the way my own brother who I love is in iraq right now so don’t go around acting like I don’t have a stake in my ideals.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I’m not advocating pacifism or anything, but there is no need for torture and there are many ways around this. Drugging them is one way to get information and it is proven to work.
That’s one man’s opinion. And one I don’t share.
If you are referring to 9/11 it was our foreign policy that pissed bin laden off and formed al Qaeda. The more we stay in the middle east militarily the stronger they grow.
To quote Steely Dan, only a fool would say that. If it wasn’t foreign policy, it would be something else. A radical belief that Islam should dominate. That it isn’t fair that we have driven the advances that have carried western civilization forward over the centuries. That we have indoor plumbing, and view women as equals instead of property. Take your pick. When death is at the core of your world view, any excuse will do, and to attribute it to some sort of “meddling in the affairs of others” excuse because it happens match your warped world view simply makes you a useful idiot, but hey don’t let me stop you. Keep on doing your part for him here at home. I’m sure he appreciates it.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:31 pm
>> the party that has had the largest executive encroachment in US history
fo shizzle my nizzle
October, 6, 2008 at 10:32 pm
>> the party that has had the largest executive encroachment in US history
Sit down Abe, you ain’t shit.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:36 pm
If you are referring to 9/11 it was our foreign policy that pissed bin laden off and formed al Qaeda. The more we stay in the middle east militarily the stronger they grow.
OBL (who’s probably dead) likes to spout off about our foreign policy. His actual goal is the creation of a new Islamic caliphate. He also believes that a Christian-Jewish alliance is conspiring to destroy Islam. He justifies (encourages) the killing of civilians in order to achieve this goal.
I don’t give a rat’s ass what OBL thinks of our foreign policy.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:37 pm
When’s Thomas Jefferson going to show up?
October, 6, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Why are we even talking about torture? Both Obama and McCain are against waterboarding and want to shut down GITMO.
October, 6, 2008 at 10:40 pm
by the way my own brother who I love is in iraq right now so don’t go around acting like I don’t have a stake in my ideals.
Never said you didn’t. So do I. My nephew is there right now as well. I hope your brother returns home safe and sound, as does my nephew. Obviously, we have very different opinions on how to achieve that end.
Drugging them is one way to get information and it is proven to work.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAA!!! Yeah, that would certainly be more acceptable to all of those who have gone insane over torture. “OMFG!!!11!1!1 WE ARE DRUGGING INMATES AT GITMO!!!1!!!1!!!” Hell, if we don’t give them soft enough toilet paper, the sanctimonious, self-righteous anger that we are subjected to is bad enough. Imagine if we {{{GASP!!}}} drugged someone.
The only thing that would change if we used drugs instead of waterboarding is that the idiots that are constantly waterboarding themselves to show how “brutal” the practice is are probably already immune to any drugs we might use instead.
By the way, you do realize that more people have waterboarded themselves to show how horrible it is than have actually been waterboarded by the US Government, right?
If you are referring to 9/11 it was our foreign policy that pissed bin laden off and formed al Qaeda. The more we stay in the middle east militarily the stronger they grow.
You haven’t read a newspaper lately, have you? Both Gen. Petraeus and al Quaeda leaders themselves have stated that they are almost completely decimated. Even the always dependable New York Times has admitted as much.
Growing stronger? Not even close. Quite the opposite, in fact.
And if you had any understanding of history, you would realize that the ME has been a thorn in the side of the US since before our founding. In fact, if it weren’t for the Musselmen of the Middle East attacking our merchent ships and taking our people hostage as far back as the late 1700s, we would not have a Navy of our own. bin Laden and al Qaeda are simply the latest iteration of the almost 300 year old threat that Islam and the ME has been to the free world.
If you are interested, here’s a great book that may help you understand the history of our relationship with the ME.
Power, Faith and Fantasy, by Michael Oren
October, 6, 2008 at 11:05 pm
eh well thanks for the debate it’s getting late and I have to get some work done.
October, 6, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Later, dude.
October, 6, 2008 at 11:32 pm
frankly, when it comes to the “largest executive encroachment in US history”, those two bastards own me.
And anyone else who knows so little about “US history”.
Heya Sally! Back that thang up girl!
October, 7, 2008 at 2:07 am
I stopped watching after two minutes. Dramatic music paired with sensationalized truths that lead to nothing negative on Obama’s part. In two minutes I learned Obama disliked Occidental College because he thought it was a “dead end.” He probably felt that way because his roommate allegedly was a heavy drug user.
Obama’s last two years in high school included recreational substance abuse. Find me a high school with juniors and seniors who don’t drink and smoke regularly. And for someone to cease the heavy abuse after a death in the family, that just exemplifies a will to achieve more than what’s currently at hand.
October, 7, 2008 at 8:18 am
You should of kept watching…it gets better.
Maybe you were afraid of what you would see?
October, 7, 2008 at 8:41 am
And for someone to cease the heavy abuse after a death in the family, that just exemplifies a will to achieve more than what’s currently at hand.
For Obama, it’s evidence of his strength of character and his strong will to have stopped using drugs.
Meanwhile, Bush is a drunk who is probably still drinking and using cocaine, so he should be IMPEACHED!!11!!!!1!
The mental gymnastics that are used to turn similar events from each of their lives from a disgusting attack against Bush into just another example of The One’s divinity must be incredibly tiring after a while.
October, 7, 2008 at 2:06 pm
If I hadn’t watched Fox, I NEVER would have known that radical terrorist sponsor are the way to get into Harvard!!!
And that was just one of a series of preposterous claims.
Yes, Fox is “fair”, because it’s fair enough to take a stance, no matter how extreme, but “balanced”??? You must be kidding!
What does “balance” even mean? That Fox gives away half the airtime on terrorism to hear Osama bin Laden’s viewpoint? Gime a break.
October, 7, 2008 at 2:11 pm
You really can’t counter any of the claims (well researched facts) covered in the program so you attack Fox.
I understand. The truth hurts. It’s time to circle the wagons.
October, 7, 2008 at 2:29 pm
If I hadn’t watched Fox, I NEVER would have known that radical terrorist sponsor are the way to get into Harvard!!!
It shouldn’t be that big a surprise. The Ivy League really hasn’t yet met a terrorist or a communist they didn’t want to embrace or celebrate. But, hey, you learned something today, and to think, you have the EEEEEVVVVVIIIILLLLL Fox News to thank for it. God Bless America! The opportunities it affords to people such as yourself are truly a blessing.
October, 7, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Sean Hannity’s idea of a source for this “well-researched” crapshow is Andy Martin, a Jew hater.
From the right-wing Washington Times, December 22, 1999:
In 1986, when Mr. Martin ran as a Democrat for Connecticut’s 3rd Congressional District seat under the name “Anthony R. Martin-Trigona,” his campaign committee filed papers saying its purpose was to “exterminate Jew power in America and impeach U.S. District Court of Appeals judges in New York City.”
In a New York bankruptcy case, he referred to a judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew.” During the bankruptcy dispute, he filed a civil-rights lawsuit claiming Jewish bankruptcy judges and lawyers were conspiring to steal his property. He asked a court to bar “any Jew from having anything to do with plaintiff’s property.”
Hannity’s America isn’t a country, it’s a mental illness. Unfortunately, not even facts can cure this sickness.
October, 7, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Wouldn’t be too much trouble for you to provide a source, Mr. Slide?
October, 7, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Nice attempt to turn the tables on “jew Hating”. Who’s more Jew Hating – this guy, no one has ever heard of, or Obama’s palestinian pals?
Learn the wonders of google. There are multiple sources for everything mentioned on the show. None of it was a surprise to those of us who have been looking into Obama’s associations.
October, 7, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Please make available to buy as dvd’s. Please replay over
and over again until election day. Please send to
abc, nbc, ktla, kttv, every news station. Please broadcast
everywhere in america. please. now. thank you.
October, 8, 2008 at 10:14 am
[...] Also, Hannity’s expose on Obama and his radical past aired on Sunday, and that had to hurt Obama, at least a little. I know that some minds were changed after viewing that. [...]
October, 8, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Sean Hannity makes up one thousand-fold for what he calls the “elite liberal media”.
Why doesn’t Hannity do a piece on George and Laura Bush’s formative years and radical associations?
Ooooooh – Obama had a Pakistani roommate assigned to him, he MUST be radical. Pakistan + dabbling in cocaine during undergrad = terrorist?
Fox news and the right wing should stop whining about the “biased liberal media”. Just keep on doing what they’re doing if they want. You’ve got your own little forum and capitve audience now.
This is America, after all.
October, 8, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Why doesn’t Hannity do a piece on George and Laura Bush’s formative years and radical associations?
Because they don’t have any?
More on Obama’s Pakistani roomates:
“Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.
“During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip, stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family.”
Who financed this costly world tour?
On his return, he stopped being Barry and became Barack, and went to Columbia University where tuition is anything but cheap. Who paid it? After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. A year. “Why Chicago? ” the reader asked. “Why not New York? He was already living in New York.”
There he hooked up with Antoin “Tony” Rezko, recently convicted on fraud and bribery charges. Rezko was born in Aleppo, Syria and was named “’Entrepreneur of the Decade” by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association.
Two or so years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Talk about expensive tuition! Who paid the tuition? After completing law school, he went back to Chicago where Rezko offered him a job. He turned it down to work for Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, which had connections with “Rezar” Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago.
In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with “seed money” for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in the Kenwoood district of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than the asking price). Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day, Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price.
The reader reported that “Valerie Jarrett was Michelle Obama’s boss and is now Obama’s chief adviser and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Shiraz, Iran!”
Guess who’s in charge of all those “small” Internet campaign contributions for Obama? According to my reader, none other than his two college roommates from Pakistan: Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid. ”
http://www.newsmax.com/brennan/obama_contributions/2008/10/07/138195.html
October, 8, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Why doesn’t Hannity do a piece on George and Laura Bush’s formative years and radical associations?
Willful ignorance is not a recipe for success, dearie.
October, 8, 2008 at 9:48 pm
America’s laughing at this video of the ridiculous Hannity when his own methods are used against him:
Says he’s a “journalist” – that’s a good one. He gave a platform to an anti-Semitic nut job, what a disgrace.
October, 8, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I’m glad you find it all so side-splittingly funny.
Because there’s gonna be lot’s more of it to come.
October, 8, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Interviewing someone with a point of view you do not share = serving on boards of directors with and kicking off your political career in the home of an unrepentant terrorist?
You were absent the day they taught critical thinking at your school, weren’t you, Mr. Slide?
You see, one is called offering up a different perspective, and the other is choosing to associate with persons who chose to be enemies of the state you wish to lead.
We’re all full up on silly leftist lunacy here. You might try the DUmmie Undergound or the Daily KOS. They never met a stupid arguement they wouldn’t embrace.
October, 8, 2008 at 11:34 pm
More turning the tables on right-wing idiots? Awesome!
October, 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Just watched it. You call that pathetic spin, “turning the tables”? Your mind is that weak? Holy cow.
Did you see that same spinmeister unable to weasel his way out of admitting that Obama knew that Ayers was a terrorist during their long relationship?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/obama-spokesman-yes-he-continued-to-work-with-ayers-after-he-found-out-about-his-past/
America is laughing at the pathetic jerk struggle to find the right weasel words.
October, 9, 2008 at 12:15 am
Mr. Slide? You Mom just called. She said that you need to quit pestering the adults and that its your bed time. Run along, now. Don’t make her get out her spoon.
October, 9, 2008 at 12:28 am
The spoon! Awesome!
October, 9, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Hot air, indeed. I like how you reacted to the video before watching it. Check with Hannity, he may be looking for some interns.
You have all somehow conveniently missed the fact that Walter Annenberg (Republican friend of Ronald Reagan) actually funded Ayer’s grant request. 50 million smackers. By Hannity’s brand of reasoning, Reagan’s pal funded terrorists.
Looking forward to more of your desperate, specious arguments. The cutesy, childish taunting is quite amusing as well.
-alandslide
October, 9, 2008 at 12:56 pm
You have all somehow conveniently missed the fact that Walter Annenberg (Republican friend of Ronald Reagan) actually funded Ayer’s grant request. 50 million smackers. By Hannity’s brand of reasoning, Reagan’s pal funded terrorists.
Wearing ignorance proudly doesn’t negate the fact that it is still ignorance. You don’t really know very much about funding charitible foundations, do you? Flawed reasoning and a propensity to speak without practical knowledge. If this is the best you can bring, you might just want to think about staying on the porch, because you can’t run with the big dogs. Still, I can kick over your castles of sand for as long as you want to build them on the beach, so by all means, keep trying. The longer you play with clues, the more likely it is that one of them might actually sink in, although I’m not sure your ego could adequately deal with what may be years of you broadcasting your brazen stupidity.
October, 9, 2008 at 1:05 pm
You have all somehow conveniently missed the fact that Walter Annenberg (Republican friend of Ronald Reagan) actually funded Ayer’s grant request.
More pathetic spin. Yes, everybody understands that. A decent, trusting Republican philanthropist puts up money for a great cause….improving Il schools, and radical leftists snatch up the money, and fritter it away on lefty causes that do nothing to improve the schools, but indoctrinate children and their parents.
Obviously, that wasn’t what he had in mind when he donated the money.
Are you really that ignorant?
October, 9, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Yes, it’s obvious that wasn’t what Annenberg had in mind. (I admire the man for his philanthropy.) Also obvious: Obama doesn’t support terrorists. Just seeing what happens when you apply Hannitization across the board, rather than selectively.
At this rate, Wrongisright Imperial Blowhard Extraordinaire may just run out of self-aggrandizing metaphors. It must be depressing to see every aspect of your bankrupt idealogy proved wrong – by reality.
On a lighter note:
Ode to Sean Hannity
by John Cleese
Aping urbanity
Oozing with vanity
Plump as a manatee
Faking humanity
Journalistic calamity
Intellectual inanity
Fox Noise insanity
You’re a profanity
Hannity
October, 9, 2008 at 2:42 pm
At this rate, Wrongisright Imperial Blowhard Extraordinaire may just run out of self-aggrandizing metaphors. It must be depressing to see every aspect of your bankrupt idealogy proved wrong – by reality.
Sweetie, you couldn’t find reality if it was nailed to the back of your hand. But keep sippin’ the Kool-Aid. Maybe Barry the Blessed™ will have a special flavor for you on November 5…”Loser’s Sweet Release”, made from the original Jim Jones formula.
October, 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Black is white, wrong is right, Hannity is a journalist, Obama is a terrorist, Palin is qualified to be president, McCain puts country first, winners are losers – brick by brick you’re building an alternate reality, which no doubt you’ll need more than ever soon enough.
Keep up the Ayers attacks by the way, they’re working – for Obama.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Yeah, the American Public, whom you know so well, are enthralled with guys who pal around with terrorists.
They love Rev. Wright, Rezko, Frank Marshall Davis, Rashid Khalidi, ACORN, etal, too.
I guess it will be to our detriment to keep bringing up Obama’s radical connections, and past, gosh darnit, but we’re just gonna go ahead and do it, anyway.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm
And you’re going to lose.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Thanks to ACORN.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Al, with the velocity and ferosity of your spin, I’m guessing you’re really hard on shoes and single-handedly keep the maker of Dramamine in business.
All the talk of reality, when you and it have clearly never met. You must be clueless because you are oblivious as to the extent to which you are embarassing yourself. Or maybe, like most Democrats, you were born without a sense of shame. Either way, you present a show that is much like a trainwreck. It is tragic and sad, and yet oddly fascinating.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Most people are not Socialists like you and your candidate. His is a stealth campaign, and with the help of the media, and massive voter fraud, he just may get in, God help us.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Only 12% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction, the lowest percentage since they started asking the question 40 years ago. I’m assuming you’re amongst those in denial about how abysmally Bush Republicans have run this country? No wait, Bill Clinton must be to blame. Maybe Jimmy Carter? Ah right, it’s FDR.
Last time I checked it was Republicans socializing the banking system. Socializing the losses, that is.
And massive voter fraud? Again with the alternate realities. The fact is that Republicans try to suppress legitimate voting (of the ‘wrong” demographic, of course) because higher turnout works against them. But you knew that.
October, 9, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Only 12% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction, the lowest percentage since they started asking the question 40 years ago.
Thank you, Nancy!
October, 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm
higher turnout works against them. But you knew that.
Well, higher turnout among dead people, fake people and mentally handicapped people sure isn’t good for Republicans, I’ll give you that.
Which one are you? Well, considering that you are actually commenting, I’m guessing you’re not dead or fake…
Hmmmmm……
October, 9, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Only 12% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction, the lowest percentage since they started asking the question 40 years ago. I’m assuming you’re amongst those in denial about how abysmally Bush Republicans have run this country? No wait, Bill Clinton must be to blame. Maybe Jimmy Carter? Ah right, it’s FDR.
The Democratic Congress has lower approval numbers than the Presidency. And since it is the legislation that drives how the government relates to the country, I guess that would be a second smack to the DEMOCRATIC leadership in both houses. You might want to ponder that before you “Open mouth and expell stupidity” again.
Last time I checked it was Republicans socializing the banking system. Socializing the losses, that is.
Funny, last I looked, the DEMOCRATS controlled Congress, and since an awful lot of members with a (D) after their name have all this inconvenient footage on C-Span and in the Congressional records where they consistently refused to admit anything was wrong with Fannie and Freddie for nearly a decade, despite the looming problem being called to their attention by both Bush and McCain during this period, it seems you’ve made yet another specious and unsubstantiated assertion that runs contrary to reality. But I understand. Dr. Goebels did say that if you tell a lie often enough…
And massive voter fraud? Again with the alternate realities. The fact is that Republicans try to suppress legitimate voting (of the ‘wrong” demographic, of course) because higher turnout works against them. But you knew that.
Yeah, that whole registering 105% of Indianapolis’ electorate to vote? Yeah. I’m sure that was supression of “legitimate” voting. ACORN getting caught pulling similar shenanigans in Missouri, Las Vegas, and other places? All a misunderstanding. After all, we all know that Chicago politicians are perfectly comfortable with votes being cast by the dead, the homeless, the non-existent, and convicted felons, so it should be perfectly appropriate for the rest of us, too.
I think you nead to look up the definition of the word “Reality”.
October, 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Voter suppression is when you ask for an I.D. to these people. If you do anything to inhibit their ability to commit fraud.
But he knew that.
October, 9, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Hey, I’m happy to help y’all vent your frustrations at the complete and utter failure of your ideology.
Dems have only run congress for 2 years, barely. Just imagine if they didn’t and Bush had privatized Social Security and everyone’s accounts had tanked. He’d be even less popular now, if that’s possible. I’ll bet he can get lower, there’s still time…
October, 9, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Has he gone into the single digits, yet, like Reid and Pelosi have dragged Congress?
October, 9, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Hey, I’m happy to help y’all vent your frustrations at the complete and utter failure of your ideology.
My ideology is fine. Things didn’t go to Hell until the Democrats acted on a silly belief that people who could not afford them needed to have homes of their own, and got the government involved in a private market, tossed all reasonable restrictions out the window, and continued to aid and abet the fraud by saying Fannie and Freddie were just fine, there was not a problem(Barney Frank, call your office.) You see, capitalism works just fine, and perform many functions more efficiently than government, but government hasn’t yet met a goal that it hasn’t wanted to turn into an entitlement, and in so doing, creates more problems than its interferance will solve. The most dangerous words you can hear? “We’re the government and we’re here to help.”
October, 9, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Hey, I’m happy to help y’all vent your frustrations at the complete and utter failure of your ideology.
I don’t believe that giving mortgages to people who are not qualified to get them, simply to buy their votes, is exactly our ideology.
You may want to look to your own socialist, pandering, anti-capitalist, illogical party for that sort of thing.
Dems have only run congress for 2 years, barely.
And what a fine job they have done so far, huh? Hell, I can’t imagine how wonderful things would be if we would just give them even more control!
Just imagine if they didn’t and Bush had privatized Social Security
Yeah, that whole 2% of their entire SS account would be GONE!
(You do realize that they were only talking about allowing you to control 2% of your SS dollars, right? Of course you do. Because otherwise, it would, once again, reveal your lack of knowledge and intelligence.)
Reality-based community indeed.
October, 9, 2008 at 6:49 pm
News Flash: Congress always gets low marks. I’m sure Bush can there though, maybe by Dow 7000?
October, 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I thought the most dangerous words were “We Republicans believe that Government is the problem, so let us run it to prove our point.”
October, 9, 2008 at 6:53 pm
News Flash: Congress always gets low marks.
What part of “lowest approval rating in history” don’t you get?
October, 9, 2008 at 6:54 pm
The economy isn’t his trainwreck, no matter what Strech Pelosi and *yawn*Harry Reid have to say. These are the same people who insist that we are lost the war in Iraq. That is to say they occupy the same clueless world shared by you and Sadam Hussein’s former press minister.
October, 9, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I thought the most dangerous words were “We Republicans believe that Government is the problem, so let us run it to prove our point.”
The Democrats are the ones that say “Government cannot possibly work”, and then set out to prove it. Which would almost be tolerable if they didn’t keep trying to do it with my tax money.
October, 9, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Who, Baghdad Bob? I thought he was on your team these days, since he couldn’t/wouldn’t acknowledge what was in plain view either.
October, 9, 2008 at 7:13 pm
I thought he was on your team these days, since he couldn’t/wouldn’t acknowledge what was in plain view either.
What a wonderful game of projection you are playing here.
Obama refuses to admit the surge worked until his back was against the wall and he was starting to look like an idiot for continuing to ignore the facts on the ground. Reoid and Pelosi are still screaming about how we are losing Iraq. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, the two people most closely involved with Fannie/Freddie refused to acknowledge what everyone on the right and the NYT was warning about for years.
Now, who can’t see what is right in front of their eyes?
October, 9, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Seriously, if you want an American version of Baghdad Bob, you can’t find a better candidate than Barney “All is WELL!” Franks.
October, 9, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Who, Baghdad Bob? I thought he was on your team these days, since he couldn’t/wouldn’t acknowledge what was in plain view either.
Al, your brand of stupid lingers like a particularly nasty airbiscuit floated by a long-fled offender. Despite the fact that you can’t see the 6 x 6 in your eye, you simply keep talking. And we keep pointing and laughing.
October, 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Al must be in a huddle with the KOStards trying to find another loaf to pinch off on the carpet.
October, 9, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Gosh you are funny. Glad to help you beat that depression. I’m looking to forward to laughing at a crushed and thoroughly demoralized Republican party throughout the 8 years of the Obama administration and beyond.
And anyone who thinks Sean Hannity is any kind of respectable human being is a mental defective.
I’ll be thinking of you wacky losers on election day. Don’t drink too much now, you’re gonna need all your strength to maintain those delusions.
October, 10, 2008 at 10:09 am
No infusion of clue potent enough or big enough to save you. Enjoy the straitjacket when the men in white come to save you from yourself, Al.
October, 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Another propaganda “documentary” with tons of opinions but no real proof. Anyone who believes this stuff is really true would have never voted for Obama in the first place.
October, 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Those aren’t opinions, you fool.
Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and repeat after me:
“Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal!”
Because there’s lot’s more about Obama you don’t want to know about, to come.
October, 13, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Life is not without a sense of irony. The second video that most don’t understand, obviously if this is on this website, shows much more than just radicalism. This shows lessons of authority and civil obedience. Like the Nazis, the KGB used patriotism and other form of propaganda to get citizens to buy into their ideology.
It’s not like these tactics just happened during the 60′s. Religion is probably one of the oldest forms of this that we have still. This video is hilarious because it describes how conservatives are campaigning right now! Palin often only uses her glittering generalities of changing the country without any explanation or reasoning. For example, she said they are going to get rid of the 2 trillion dollar debt by the end of the next 4 years? How!!!??!?! Palin NEVER says.
Nobody questions her logic? Even if you expose them to authentic evidence like global warming, you cannot change their minds/views. WOW! Sounds like Conservative thinking from the past….. I don’t know…..FOREVER!?!
Good one NEO CONS
October, 13, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Wow, ignoring the overwhelming evidence that Obama has a problematic radical background, and trying to pin the radical lable on Palin is a neat trick. You named yourself well.
Palin NEVER says?
What is it about ‘reining in out of control spending’ that you don’t understand?
October, 13, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Re-read that buddy. Palin is the Queen of saying something without any reasoning. “Reining in out of control spending” might be enough for you, but like I said, THAT IS NOT A DETAILED PLAN. You don’t question how, you just cheer mindlessly like your at a convention.
Oh and linking Obama to a radical who was an activist against poverty, class ism, and for education reform when Obama was like 8 or 9 yrs old isn’t too convincing. What evidence? Propaganda? This is no more factual than in the arguments made in the movie “Loose Change”. That’s more mind blowing, if it convinces you, than this and ties the whole Bush administration to unsettling conflicts of interests regarding the war in Iraq.
Oh and that’s a different kind of terrorist all together, stop trying to make it seem like he was an Islamic terrorist. The Bush Administration has been just as much of a terror. Conservative thinking has ultimately lead to alot more radical thinking like umm I don’t know cases leading to the decimation of culture and minorities? Native Americans? Hello? Like I said not very convincing, thought provoking, but without overwhelming certainty.
October, 13, 2008 at 2:35 pm
More delicious irony from an Obamabot. Using “Logical” in your psuedonym. What’s next? More truth-speak about the nutjobs and criminals that Obama associates with? Listen, chief, the only specifics I have heard from Barry the Blessed™ is that he’ll add taxes on anyone making over $250,000.00. Way to go, Barry. A threshold that low is certain to ravage small businesses, which will, in turn destroy any hope of a quick recovery from the economic mess that he and his friends have put us in with their “Homes for everyone” scam.
As for attacking Palin, its a nice trick, but last I looked, she wasn’t at the top of the ticket.
October, 13, 2008 at 3:16 pm
What evidence? Propaganda?
Dude. Google is your friend. Use it. Really. Don’t make me do your homework for you. There is ample evidence that Obama is comfortable with extreme radicals from Ayers/Dohrn, to Rev. Wright, Mike Klonsky, Carl Davidson, Father Phledger to name just a few.
He was a member of the Marxist ‘New Party’ in the ’90′s, for crying out loud. Not propaganda. Evidence all over the place.
Look at the lists of his endorsements.
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/terrorists-and-tyrants-of-the-world-root-for-obama/
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/reds-who-support-obama/
Many of the people on those lists were associates he worked with. Do a little digging, and quit hiding your head in the sand. You can’t really believe at this point that Obama isn’t a radical, himself. He’s trying to put something past the American people in a stealth, sham of a campaign.
Nobody said anything about Ayers being an Islamic terrorist, which is an absurdity on its face. It would be hard to come up with two people more whitebread than these two upperclass radical commies.
Also, who the hell cares how old Obama was when they were engaged in their terrorist activities? He befriended them as an adult, and they continue to be unrepentent of their activities, and say, “they didn’t do enough”. Do some critical thinking. Of your OWN.
If being a “different kind of terrorist all together” is something we can all excuse, I guess we all owe Timothy McVeigh and the unibomber big apologies.
Look, if you’re a Marxist, then Obama’s the man for you. But don’t disparage those of us who are trying to ring alarm bells to people who aren’t getting the real story on Obama from the MSM.
October, 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Also, if you’re having trouble understanding McCain’s economic plan, there’s a link to his website on the top right hand corner of my site.
Palin is not going to bore the folks who come out to their campaign rallies with all the DETAILS of their economic plan. That’s not what campaign rallies are for, you maroon.
October, 13, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Yes! I love the name calling. Just like a conservative.
The homework you have done is just as good as the homework I’ve done on McCain and his voting record and his political ties to some really interesting people.
* Jim Hensley, Convicted Felon
* G. Gordon Liddy, Convicted Felon
* Charles Keating, Convicted Felon
* Raffaello Follieri, Convicted Felon
* Rick Renzi, Under Indictment
* Rick Davis, Freddie Mac Lobbyist
* Charles Black, Lobbyist for Dictators
* Richard Quinn, White Supremist
* Pastor John Hagee, Bigot
* Pastor Rod Parsley, Bigot
* Todd Palin, Member of Secessionist Group
* Andrew McCain, Resigned Manager Savings & Loan
But McCain can affiliate himself with the involvements of the Keating Five but he admits and apologizes for it and everyone is like, oh its ok then? I see.
There are issues that should be taking up the candidates time, but I don’t think these are them.
I bring up Palin because she is the epidamy of radicalism according to some Alaskan residents. With even more significantly right views than Bush. The nomination of Palin was made last-minute and showed to be a impulse decision designed to appease critics within the party who objected to his preferred choices: Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge.
I like the Rev Wright stuff though. A lot of people have this perspective but are scared to say it. Yes we live in two America’s. The one that’s racist and prejudice to classes, religious beliefs, sexes, and minorities. And the one that’s thinks everything is going great like the war in Iraq.
October, 13, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Weak associations, dude. Pathetic, really. As you know, McCain was exonerated from any wrong doing with Keating, and John Glenn, another member who was exonerated has been out stumping for Obama.
Saul Alinsky would be so proud.
Palin is the most popular Governor in America with anywhere from a 65-80% approval rating. You don’t reach those heights of popularity by being the “epitomy of radicalism”
I like the Rev Wright stuff though. A lot of people have this perspective but are scared to say it. Yes we live in two America’s. The one that’s racist and prejudice to classes, religious beliefs, sexes, and minorities. And the one that’s thinks everything is going great like the war in Iraq.
That didn’t even make sense.
Peddle your bullshit somewhere else.
October, 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Ok, sorry that I’m not just kissing butt and taking everything FOX noise says literal. I thought this was free thought and all that. You don’t like it? We will kick you out huh? That’s nice. Way to convince me. I don’t see why you can’t just try and persuade me with some positive McCain views or strategy.
McCain was exonerated but felt the need to apologize for his bad judgment and not-so-wrong doing? I guess.
I’m just trying to see every side. I question Obama supporters, but I don’t get the hostility that conservatives show. They don’t ridicule or poke fun with arrogance or condescending remarks. It might work in your Republican world, but obviously it hasn’t worked overall in our society. Bad manners “my friends”.
October, 13, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Okay, look, I’m sorry…I’m getting the feeling you’re not a terribly old voter…but excuse me, you’re the one that came bursting in here implying that “neo conservatives” (which I’m not) are guilty of logical fallacies, which presumably, you’re not.
Then you start attacking McCain, and Sarah Palin on specious grounds.
Now, you’re making all sorts of assumptions that are simply false:
sorry that I’m not just kissing butt and taking everything FOX noise says literal.
Huh? Who does that?
I thought this was free thought and all that. You don’t like it?
Free thought…exactly. What’s you’re problem?
We will kick you out huh?
Who said that?
I don’t see why you can’t just try and persuade me with some positive McCain views or strategy.
Are you kidding me? I’m not McCain’s official spokesperson. I pointed you to the McCain button on the top right of the sidebar.
Here’s what I can tell you about McCain: He’s an honest broker. That “straight talk” business isn’t a joke. He’s pissed conservatives off for years with it. He wasn’t my first, second, or even third choice during the primaries, okay?
Yes, of course, the Palin choice was designed to placate conservatives. That’s good politics.
I don’t know what else to tell you.
Please check deeper into Obama’s background in Chicago. What you’ll find is a very corrupt opportunist, and that’s the most generous spin I can put on it.
October, 13, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I’ve also heard that McCain has had some past associations with the VietCong which is outrageous if you think about it.
…his political ties to some really interesting people.
* Jim Hensley, Convicted Felon
* G. Gordon Liddy, Convicted Felon
* Charles Keating, Convicted Felon
* Raffaello Follieri, Convicted Felon
* Rick Renzi, Under Indictment
* Rick Davis, Freddie Mac Lobbyist
* Charles Black, Lobbyist for Dictators
* Richard Quinn, White Supremist
* Pastor John Hagee, Bigot
* Pastor Rod Parsley, Bigot
* Todd Palin, Member of Secessionist Group
* Andrew McCain, Resigned Manager Savings & Loan
That some pretty impressive research, Logical Fallacies. But if you were trying to make a point, you might want to give it another shot.
Let me help you see the graveyard that you’re attempting to whistle past.
These “political ties” of McCain that you list are tangential at best and non-exististent at worst. Regardless of that, let’s assume that McCain has carnal knowledge of each of those people on your list. That proves no point other than politicians associate with some shady characters which isn’t exactly breaking news.
If you want to try and find a politician with NO political associations or “ties” that are less than desirable, good luck with that.
Your list is about as relevant as bringing to your attention Obama’s “political ties” to Ted Kennedy (responsible for the death of Mary Jo Kopechne) and Robert Byrd (Klan member). It misses the point entirely as to why the people a politician CHOOSES to associate with are an important way to judge their character.
What you’re willfully ignoring is that Obama CHOSE to associate with a racist, America-hating preacher. For 20 years. It isn’t a matter that Obama was in the same room with a racist, America-hating preacher once or twice. It was that a racist, America-hating preacher was the Obama family’s preacher and counselor for 20 years.
The Ayers connection is similar. That unrepentent domestic terrorist was not someone that Obama was introduced to at some social function. He was a political ally of Obama’s when it was political advantageous to Obama.
You can choose to dismiss what those long-term and meaningful associations say about Obama’s character because you like his Hopey’n'Changey message but to do so makes you more of a self-deluded Kool-aid drinker than the worst Fox News sheeple.
I know hundreds of people and I have a lot of associations as I’m sure you do, Logical Fallacies. And none of mine have bombed government building and preached hate against this country.
Have any of yours?
October, 13, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Keating Five? You do need to get Google and do more research, chief.
October, 19, 2008 at 10:16 pm
You americans are funny. McCain is the same old same old. Why do you guys support any one who wants to send a substantial number of your young man into war. When the rest of the world who you try to “liberated” is more concerned about substance you are concerned about race. You guys are lucky you can fact check and get history about all your politicians. Some other countries cant even get an interview with theirs and thats the norm. So instead of spreading rumors about republican or democratic candidate, find out the facts read and stop rumormonger. ps if i sever on a board with an catholic does that make me one. and if i have seven houses does that make less in touch with the common man. We will all have differnt view but what i hear from some of you guys is that you are not ready to elect a non white candidate. that does nt make you racist. the olny humans who like change are wet babies
October, 19, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I do love it when foreigners try to shill for Obama. It lets me know that my instincts about him are right.
October, 19, 2008 at 10:24 pm
What bull. Where was Obama’s race mentioned in this video? What does his race have to do with anything? He and his cult following love bringing it up, but his critics are concerned about his Marxist ideology and his long history of radical, and communist associations.
And guess what? We’re way beyond the “rumor” stage when it comes to Obama’s disturbing history. Facts are facts. If you had an inquiring mind, maybe you would try looking into them, rather than parroting Obama’s lame talking points.
October, 23, 2008 at 11:00 pm
[...] A near total media black out of Obama’s numerous radical, and corrupt associations, [...]
October, 27, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I guess Jasper never read or listened to facts stated about Obama. We would vote for anyone worthy of being president of our GREAT NATION. He has lied and avoid answering the questions about his assoications with radicals the bigot Wright. There is no way you can listen to this hatred for 20 years, call him your mentor and when it comes out dismiss him in your speeches? McCain for PRESIDENT ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October, 27, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Wow, this is the biggest load of bullshit i’ve ever heard…does anybody here know anything about putting together a bias documentary? Guess not…GOBAMA!!!!
October, 27, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Not Bullshit, just the plain truth!!!
October, 27, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Mitch hit the nail on the head!
October, 27, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Emily, close your eyes, plug your ears, and repeat after me:
“lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!!!!”
There there….feel better now?
October, 27, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Yeah, much better. thanks.
October, 27, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Heh. At least you’re a good sport.
October, 27, 2008 at 1:37 pm
barack my world!
October, 27, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Here is what columnist Thomas Sowell had to say about Obama and and he makes sense
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_change/2008/10/21/142554.html?s=al&promo_code=6DC0-1
September, 17, 2009 at 1:02 pm
[...] but Obama was mentioning that he was black. We were mentioning his troubling radical background, and radical, far left/communist supporters and associations. Just as we are, now. You can see this [...]