Video: Pamela Geller Defends The SIOA Bus Ads

Amazingly enough, she spent more time debating the RTTV  moderator, than the moderate Muslim spokesperson, who stated that this is a great country, and Pamela has the right to her free speech:

Now, I don’t know about you, but I could tell Pamela was going to have trouble with the moderator from the get-go. Did you notice how her demeanor changed as she went from reading about the wonderful, peaceful Muslim bus ads to the mean ol’ SIOA ads?

The woman was low on facts (what’s a fatwa? hello???), but high on mushy headed approved liberal opinion. And her opinion wasn’t based on anything concrete or factual…Pamela clearly explained the fatwa, she cited case after case of the threats and violence Muslim “apostates”  face, but the only danger this woman could fanthom was the violation of her comfy, politically correct worldview, and that of the perpetually aggrieved. How is Pamela promoting stereotypes that are inaccurate? She’s been trying to expose  the gruesome practice of honor killings for years. All of those victims would be happy to know that they’re  just “inaccurate stereotypes”…if only they were still living and breathing, and able to hear what the lady who doesn’t even know the meaning of fatwa, has to say.

This little episode made me think of something Ace had written earlier this week…(he can be so insightful). He was discussing  how the leftists think, and how they base their opinions on symbolism, rather than facts, using the border fence as an example:

I always enjoy how twits speak of the symbolism of a thing.

That’s why the “Political Class” — the Gee Aren’t I Terribly Enlightened? crowd — opposes this. They talk about that a lot — the symbolism of the thing.

How about discussing the reality of it? It’s a fence. Its real purpose — in real-world, real-time reality — is to halt people from crossing a border. A real border, mind you, although on that point I concede a border is a more abstract concept than, say, a shoe.

It doesn’t symbolically represent a division between the countries. It actually is a division between the countries.

And what is wrong with that?

I’m noting this because a few weeks ago I saw a guy at the riots in Toronto who complained that the police barricades were a symbol representing a division between the protesters and the G-20 representatives.

And I thought, “Gee, no, actually it’s not a symbol of a division; it really is, in fact, a physical division.” Because, see, you’re rioting. (And not symbolically in riot, either.) You can tell it’s a real-world division because now you can’t get to the G-20 conference center and throw rock-metaphors through the window-symbols.

I think there is a type of person — well-represented in the “Political Class” and in progressive politics — that has learned, from college, that the Abstract is everything, that Real Smart People are always focused on the Abstract, on metaphors, on symbols.

And they seem to disregard the concrete, the real, almost as a dirty thing, something of concern to the plebians, who cannot of course grasp the subtleties of high representational thinking like they can. You know, with their “symbolic” barricades and all.


It’s just an observation of a type of intellectually-insecure individual who parrots the pattern of thinking of his professors (who once represented intellectual authority to them — Symbolically, of course) and elevates, always, the Abstract above the Real.

I just tend to distrust this sort of divorced-from-tangible-reality worship of the abstract. Obviously — duh — abstract thinking is important. It is, in certain ways, I suppose, a higher form of thinking than thinking of the concrete.

But not when it is shorn of all rootings to the actual world.

This is how evil happens. You can abstract any evil you choose into some esoteric “greater good.”

This is how evil is ignored, too:

“inaccurate stereotype”?


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15 thoughts on “Video: Pamela Geller Defends The SIOA Bus Ads

  1. Will never find me defending Islam, but it will be very hard to find me defending Pam Geller.

    Not cuz she’s wrong, but because she is so unpleasant and mean.

    Worse than me (other than a few specific instances) she makes a POINT of pizzing everyone off.


  2. Wickedpinto… you mean to say…

    in your opinion… Pamela is this or that.

    FACT: Pamela is a strong outspoken woman.

    Get used to butt-kicking by strong women. I know it flies in the face of men, including those who use Islam as an excuse to force women into sub-human subservience, but… you need to get used to it and accept it.


  3. Thanks you Voting Female.

    WP, show me where in that clip Pamela was unpleasant or mean. She can be strident at times, but she’s trying to get peoples’ attention.

    Ace was a little mean when he referred to liberals as twits, there, but you didn’t say anything about that.


  4. Jane Fonda was asked about the 2 to 3 million South Vietnamese slaughtered after the U.S. left Vietnam. She said it was all the fault of the Untied States. This is how liberals view our country. We are evil, and we deserve whatever bad things come our way. We caused 911, we are the aggressors, Islamic terrorists are the victims. And these people are in charge of the White House and Congress.


  5. Great post, Deb. The ‘symbolism’ jargon — I think — permits libs to display themselves as willing to touch on a subject and sound informed without making a COMMITMENT to what is coming out of their mouths it as truth or fiction. It’s duplicitous.

    I don’t always ‘like’ listening to Pamela Geller, but I learn from her. I respect her position and views. The reality in this situation is that this liberal ill-informed moderator can really keep someone like Pamela from being able to convey her point in the limited minutes they have in programming. Pamela was interrupted on numerous occasions and then had to stop and teach the moderator. This debate wasn’t supposed to be about her, but a service for her viewers. Sheesh!

    Hey WickedPinto… don’t agree with ya, but I still love ya.


  6. Also want to add that when I was in a professional parish ministry position a beautiful young Muslim wife and mother came to me to chat. I knew her because she was my neighbor. Her husband beat her whenever he chose to. According to her, he did this without provocation or any given reason. He was very suspicious of her and feared she would rat him out or leave him. She had very limited access to the family funds and claimed to me that she loved her husband and wanted to stay a loyal wife and mother of his children. His abuse was more about how we was feeling, I guess, than any reality about what she might have been doing ‘wrong’ but it was making her and her children sort of ‘insane.’

    She showed me huge deep bruises that almost covered all sides of her hips and legs. She could only wear long pants or skirts even in the Texas summer heat. I asked if she had considered taking the children and leaving him, but she feared that with all his money and connections all over the world that he would hunt her down and kill her. Her words.

    I’m encouraged by Muslims who want to communicate that they want peace with all people. My family and I have personally been protected by decent Muslim people in a few challenging situations we found ourselves in on some of our adventurous travels. I thank God for placing these decent people in our lives and I continue to pray for them and others like them.

    But Pamela is RIGHT. There is this need for some. And those who get uncomfy can simply consider: “If the shoe fits, wear it.”


  7. Oh, what a sad story. What can be done for that woman? She’s stuck. And she’s in grave danger.

    I saw some horrific pictures, last night when I was searching Google images using the search term, “honor killing”. Many of these women survive with horrendous mutilations to their faces and bodies. This is the stuff nightmares are made of, and it’s pure evil.

    Anyone who would disregard what is happening all over the world out of political correctness, really, really needs to rethink that.


  8. Months ago I had put into our NetFlix queue the movie “The Stoning of Soraya M” based upon a true story and book written about the same. I happened to finally receive it recently and watched it last night.

    If you haven’t seen it, watch it, but it’s NOT appropriate for children or those with tender hearts.


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