Taped Obama Message Booed At Boy-Scout Jamboree

They were  displeased that the President chose to go on The View, rather than visit them in person.

Doug Powers writes:

Every US president since William Howard Taft has served as the honorary president of the Boys Scouts of America. President Obama accepted his role as honorary president in March of last year. So as you know, when the 100th anniversary of the Boys Scouts came along late last month, Obama decided to… go on The View instead. Hey, when you’re down 14 points with women, an American institution like the Boy Scouts will just have to wait.

However, Obama did record a message that was broadcast to the 43,000 Boy Scouts in attendance at the National Jamboree in Virginia.

Simmah down, boys. Obama chose to do something more historic than the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts. He was the first sitting President to appear on a daytime talk show. How cool is that?

Hat tip: Gateway Pundit: Doing Their Duty… Boy Scouts Boo Obama (Video)

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51 thoughts on “Taped Obama Message Booed At Boy-Scout Jamboree

  1. “He was the first sitting President to appear on a daytime talk show. How cool is that?”

    The Narcissist-in-Chief would rather be seen by a few million TV watchers than a few thousand Boy Scouts. Is anyone surprised?

    About that “first president to” thing:

    Abraham Lincoln: First President to have a patent. (He got it long before he got elected.)

    Teddy Roosevelt: First President to be awarded a Nobel Prize – the Peace Prize, back in the days when that actually meant something.

    James Garfield: First President to give a new proof of the Pythagorean Theorem. His is the one that’s usually used today.

    FDR: More than a few firsts: first President to appear on TV – so he predates Obama. Scratch Obama’s “first”. This just in: it was at the 1939 World’s Fair, and during daylight. And he was talking. Eat your heart out, Obama.

    (Elder Statesman Joe Biden thought FDR’s TV appearance was in 1929, but it wasn’t.)

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  3. I am a scout that attended this 2010 Jamboree. I was hoping for a visit by the President as many of my other attendees were. Nobody here has mentioned one of the biggest reasons that his attendance would have been a good thing. Many scouts are going to be the next generations leaders of economy, government, infrastructure and more. They are going to be our next military officers and enlisted men.

    The question that continues to linger in my mind is how can the president justify not talking to the more than 70,000 people that where at the Thursday night arena show? How can he avoid talking to the 40,000 scouts who are destined to be the nations future leaders?

    I will be of voting age within the next year and I wonder if I will be able to support a “young people’s” president who cannot afford to talk to 40,000 young people in one place.

    That being said I think it is entirely inappropriate that he was booed.

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  8. Freedom Action Now: You are correct that FDR is the first president to speak during daytime hours. Interestingly though, it was only over the radio that it was broadcast live. Move of the visual component was seen that night. As to Obama, it is true that he is the first sitting president to appear on a DAYTIME TALK SHOW. Thats grand and all but lets face it, daytime shows like The View and others aren’t really that old. It was really only a matter of time. More interesting is the fact that the view films episodes the night before airing. Thus, while Obama is the first on daytime talk tv, he was actually filmed the night before. Also, I am in agreement with Jacob, while the president should have been there, booing the leader of your country does seem a bit inappropriate.

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  9. this was another bad decision, going on the view, that airs 5 days a week 52 weeks a year. or going to the Boy Scout’s jamboree, that happens once every 4 years. in addition to being the 100th anniversary og the BSA.

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  10. It would have been better for him to have been there but he shouldn’t be attacked for nor going. I say this as an Eagle Scout who had the opportunity to hear President Johnson speak at the 1964 Jamboree in an evening program.

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  11. Sounds to me like these boys felt disrespected and insulted; they treated O’Bama the way he treated them. I’m am ashamed that our “president” would rather flirt with a brown-noser like Behar then invest some time in shaping our nation’s future leaders. Are inner-city kids the only one worth his time? Maybe he feels they are easier to influence than boy scouts.

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  12. Boy Scouts generally have better manners; the logistics of getting a president to a Jamboree are daunting, and the last time it was tried, 300 Scouts suffered heat exhaustion and 30 were sent to the hospital.

    I notice that very few friends of Scouting complain. For example, has this blog ever done anything to support Scouting before? What the heck — if you have to kick BSA around to insult Obama, you’ve never cared for them before, right? What’s to lose?

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  13. What I see is this blog using Scouting as a political football, kicking Scouting around in hopes of striking at President Obama.

    I can’t see what you think; all I can see is that this blog only kicks Scouting around.

    On a bizarre, erroneous claim you kick Scouting around. You support Scouting? Why didn’t you look for the facts before posting? 100% of your posts on Scouting show Scouts behaving badly.

    Support? We don’t need that kind of support, Ma’am.

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  14. Excuse me. I was a scout. My oldest is a WEBELOS, and my youngest is a Tiger Cub this year.

    I post here, and had ND “Kicked” scouting around, I would have been the first to call her on it.

    Was I disappointed in the bavior of these scouts? Yes I was. That doesn’t change what happened.

    Had my boys and their fellow scouts been there, we would have had a talk about their behavior. Even if the current holder of the office cannot respect the office or the young men who might one day aspire to it, they don’t have an excuse for their behavior.

    No one needs to treat scouting as a political football to strike at the President. His choice of priorities does that better than any non-existent manipulation of the institution ever could.

    Your progressive outrage might play well at your blog, but unsubstantiated allegations really don’t impress us much around here.

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  15. I followed the trail back to his hideyhole. Lots of progressive links and nonesense masquerading as “fact”.

    I found the post on how GM posted a “profit” to be amusing. Apparently someone whining about checking facts couldn’t be bothered to do it himself.

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  16. kicking Scouting around in hopes of striking at President Obama.

    “kicking scouting around?” Nonsense.

    “Logistics are daunting?” Perhaps for this President.

    “300 Scouts suffered heat exhaustion?” This is the silliest point yet. It’s completely irrelevant – he was invited by the organization despite any previous problems. And obviously many scouts felt it was worth the risk.

    all I can see is that this blog only kicks Scouting around.

    Now you’re just lying.

    PA SEIU Union Thugs Bully The Boy Scouts

    Flag-Gate

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  17. Should have also mentioned that I was a Life Scout, and Mr. Self-Appointed Defender-of-Scouting doesn’t speak for me.

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  18. Your progressive outrage might play well at your blog, but unsubstantiated allegations really don’t impress us much around here.

    Unsubstantiated allegations?

    How about these:

    1. Obama chose “The View,” over the Scouts. Any substantiation? No. The View taping was July 28. Closing Jamboree ceremony, July 31. Did the Scouts complain? No. Do you have any evidence that BSA really wanted a president there, considering the heat stroke problems in 2005? No.

    2. Scouts booed Obama — really? Who? A significant portion of the group acted like boors, in contradiction of the Scout Oath and Law? What are the odds that 45,000 Scouts would really do that?

    Is that video the sole exception? You don’t know. No one has done any work to substantiate it — it’s video that just fell into your lap . . . no one else has been burned with that kind of video, at least, not lately, right?

    So, what did anyone do to verify it?

    This blog hasn’t made any attempt to substantiate any point made in the post starting this thread.

    Don’t claim you won’t fall for unsubstantiated claims when you just did.

    Obama didn’t brush the Scouts off, BSA didn’t claim that he did nor substantiate it. Obama was in New York on July 28, and that’s when the view was taped. His video was played on July 31.

    You could “unsubstantiate” your claim merely by looking at a calendar. At a minimum, a glance at the calendar would suggest there’s more to the story, and something to check out.

    Got any substantiated claims at all?

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  19. Did the Scouts complain? No

    Apparently you didn’t watch the video. Try to keep up, please.

    Do you have any evidence that BSA really wanted a president there, considering the heat stroke problems in 2005?

    Other that the fact that they invited him? Do we need more?

    What a goofball.

    Scouts booed Obama — really? Who? Blah, blah, blah…

    Ah – the Sgt. Schultz defense. “I see no video tape. I see nossing!” Wonderful. Here’s the way it works, Clown Boy. We provide the video evidence to support our story. Then you get to find reasons to discount it. You don’t get to bleat about your fantasies about Scout behavior without evidence. Put up or STFU.

    It’s funny that now Darrell’s much less concerned with the Scouts (who he has consistently maligned) and much more with the reputation of the President. This guy’s a liar from start to finish.

    Obama didn’t brush the Scouts off, BSA didn’t claim that he did nor substantiate it. Obama was in New York on July 28, and that’s when the view was taped. His video was played on July 31.

    He certainly did brush the BSA off, and The View taping on the 28th was certainly prioritized above an appearance at the Jamboree (which started on the 27th). The White House Communications Director, though, tells us that it was really fundraisers during that period that prevented the President from honoring the 100th anniversary. That’s a quibble (how do you allocate blamin amongst the myriad of items the President scheduled ahead of the Jamboree?) but damning of its own.

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  20. At a minimum, a glance at the calendar would suggest there’s more to the story, and something to check out.

    OK, I checked my calendar really carefully, and Obama still scheduled fundraisers and an appearance on The View during the Jamboree. Scrutinizing my calendar with the utmost care, I was able to determine that he never appeared at the Jamboree at any time.

    What was your point again?

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  21. So, Geoff: Obama scheduled a trip to New York on July 28. You claim that was done in conflict with Obama’s appearance at Fort A. P. Hill on July 31.

    Please explain: How does an appearance on July 28 conflict with an event on July 31?

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  22. Please explain: How does an appearance on July 28 conflict with an event on July 31?

    Its already been explained:

    But the president will instead be traveling Wednesday to New York for a taping of the ABC show, as well as Democratic fundraisers and a stop in New Jersey. The talk show appearance comes as campaign season moves into full swing, but also amid efforts to cap the Gulf oil spill for good, contain the damage from an unprecedented leak of Afghanistan war documents and battle Arizona over its immigration law — set to go into effect Thursday. Obama also has an out-of-town event planned for Friday in Detroit.
    ———————————————————-
    The White House said Tuesday that the fundraisers, not the TV appearance, prevented the president from attending.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/27/obama-missing-historic-boy-scout-jamboree-fundraisers-view-taping/

    But I guess fundraising and his own historicity were bigger priorities than that of an American institution’s historical milestone, right?

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  23. But the president will instead be traveling Wednesday to New York for a taping of the ABC show, as well as Democratic fundraisers and a stop in New Jersey. The talk show appearance comes as campaign season moves into full swing, but also amid efforts to cap the Gulf oil spill for good, contain the damage from an unprecedented leak of Afghanistan war documents and battle Arizona over its immigration law — set to go into effect Thursday. Obama also has an out-of-town event planned for Friday in Detroit.

    1. Nice to see you confess that the original claim is wrong, even if you backed into it.

    2. So, which of these should have been cancelled because saying “Happy Centennial” to Boy Scouts in person was more important:

    A. Immigration reform
    B. The War in Afghanistan
    C. The Gulf oil spill
    D. Elections in 2010 (we’ve never cancelled an election before . . .)
    E. The War In Iraq
    D. Fighting the recession and trying to decrease unemployment.

    You exhibit such profound hubris in condemning Obama for having a busy schedule. Remind me not to stand next to you in any thunderstorm.

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  24. 2. So, which of these should have been cancelled because saying “Happy Centennial” to Boy Scouts in person was more important:

    A. Immigration reform

    Congress’s job, not his. See: U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8

    B. The War in Afghanistan

    The man who took how many months to decide on a strategery couldn’t spare a few hours from his taxing schedule? Ok…

    C. The Gulf oil spill

    You’re kidding, right? The man who was so concerned that he visited what? Twice during the months-long leak? The man who wouldn’t rest until it was capped, if you don’t count the multiple vacations, necessitated no doubt by his tireless efforts of looking over other people’s shoulders and asking “Is it capped yet?”

    D. Elections in 2010 (we’ve never cancelled an election before . . .)

    He’s not running for office, although he’s never stopped campaigning long enough to do his job…and it isn’t like he’s got the mass of (D) candidates clamoring for his help in campaigning this year. I wonder why that is?

    E. The War In Iraq

    Yeah, it was so taxing to continue his predecessor’s stategery there that he couldn’t spare a few hours for the future leaders of the country, even though he could make time during the week to bandy some softball questions from hideous harpies on daytime T.V.

    D. Fighting the recession and trying to decrease unemployment.

    True. He hadn’t yet finished distributing the spendulous boodle to ward heels, community ballot box stuffing activists, and union bosses, but people found out about the billions going to nonexistent Congressional Districts before the slush fund could be emptied.

    Seriously, this is the same jackhole who promised us he wouldn’t rest until the economy had improved and every American who wanted a job had one…and yet I’ve lost count of how many vacations he’s had.

    Keep up with the spin. We’ll keep on knowing that it was a conscious decision to not be exposed to that many people who live every day with so much more integrity then he could ever hope to display in a lifetime.

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  25. Well, at least you’re accurate with the name. Frankly, I prefer red, white and blue.

    A. If immigration reform is Congress’s job, why in God’s name must it be Obama who kicks the butts of the Republicans to get it done? yes, Congress must pass the law. But come to the real world: Major legislation is a ballet between Congress and the executive branch. With the RepublicanNO party, the president’s work has been doubled.

    And, skipping the Scout Jambo appears to have paid off on a major part of the immigration issue, border security. True to form, Republicans now change their position, and say that border security isn’t what they wanted. President Obama is on the job, no thanks to NotRedWhiteandBlue BlackisWhite.

    B. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Obama’s decision came in earlier than the commander in Afghanistan asked. Can’t get any fact right? There’s enough real stuff to criticize, but you can’t find it and have to make it up?

    So, since you think MacChrystal took too long to put the case together, you should be very happy he was replaced, yes?

    C. Obama put the right person in charge of the well-closing and clean up, from the federal side. Obama has moved way too slowly in fixing the federal regulation of the cowboys who mine our seas of oil and gas — but that’s not a position you’d agree with. Obama’s fault here was in not reining in BP and other oil explorers sooner, and maybe harder.

    It’s not a coincidence: All the regulatory action on the platform that blew, including the leasing and approval of the site, was done during the Bush administration, and/or with Bush administration appointees. Obama really does need to clean out the Bush policies and, in many cases, appointees, from environmental protection.

    Obama’s mostly clung to the Republican line and regime on environmental protection, and now we see that invites disaster.

    D. Elections: Mao said political power grows out of the barrel of a gun, and I gather you prefer that. In America, traditionally, power has grown out of the finger that rings the doorbell to invite a neighbor to vote (or its historical equivalent). Presidents who want to get things done must campaign to get them done. Just a couple of points ago you pointed out that Congress has the duty to pass laws on immigration — and then you condemn Obama’s work to get the right laws by campaigning? Dissonance much?

    T. Roosevelt was right. The presidency is a bully pulpit (using TR’s definition of “bully,” meaning “grand”). Obama’s not used it enough.

    You’re a neophyte at political stuff, I take it. In how many campaigns have you organized neighborhoods? Here in Texas, if you’ve voted fewer than five times, it means you’re not 20 yet, or you’re a guilty bystander. Which are you?

    E. You’re a first class denialist, you know? Check the president’s schedule — two hours on Iraq and Afghanistan every day, usually first thing in the morning.

    You would do well to get a good biography of Franklin Roosevelt and study his wartime actions.

    F.

    spendulous boodle to ward heels, community ballot box stuffing activists, and union bosses, but people found out about the billions going to nonexistent Congressional Districts before the slush fund could be emptied

    You really don’t have a grasp on reality here. The stimulus bill was too small, by Republican demand (see also here), effective where it went and as far as it went, and not directed at all to activist, nor union bosses, nor are there any “nonexistent Congressional Districts” (what in the world was that supposed to mean?).

    Obama taking too many vacations? Hypocrite. Obama’s been a workaholic in recent history.

    (By the way, Obama’s been to the Gulf of Mexico five times, including his recent “vacation” showing that Gulf resorts are still great destination — one of the best ways to boost the oil-spill-damaged economies.)

    So we know you disagree with this president and will take any opportunity to sling mud, but you failed to tell us which of these issues you wish to sacrifice so Obama could go hobnob with those Scouts who survived the heat had he gone to visit them.

    You’re dancing around the issue, though, on the whole, you’re making a case that Obama has much better things do to with his time than take a day to see the Scouts, who also had much better things to do with their time than sit in the sun waiting for security to clear everybody into the arena.

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  26. A. If immigration reform is Congress’s job, why in God’s name must it be Obama who kicks the butts of the Republicans to get it done? yes, Congress must pass the law. But come to the real world: Major legislation is a ballet between Congress and the executive branch. With the RepublicanNO party, the president’s work has been doubled.

    Maybe because they know that the answer is not to reward those who broke the law and came here illegally?
    Regardless, we have departed from your silly implication that the Great Vacationer was so hard at work on this issue that he couldn’t spare a few hours for the future leaders of this country on a “historic” and “unprecidented” milestone of their organization.

    B. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Obama’s decision came in earlier than the commander in Afghanistan asked. Can’t get any fact right? There’s enough real stuff to criticize, but you can’t find it and have to make it up?

    The only fine point here is the one on top of your head.
    The man dithered, and put soldiers in harms way for want of any real leadership or plan.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a058902a-c196-11de-b86b-00144feab49a.html

    But again, misses the point that a few hours out of one day would hardly detract from his clear and swift leadership of the war there.

    C. Obama put the right person in charge of the well-closing and clean up, from the federal side. Obama has moved way too slowly in fixing the federal regulation of the cowboys who mine our seas of oil and gas — but that’s not a position you’d agree with. Obama’s fault here was in not reining in BP and other oil explorers sooner, and maybe harder.

    Bush’s fault yadayadayada…your boy campaigned for the job, and it is time for him to own it.
    As for “reigning in the cowboys”, we wouldn’t have the need for deep water drilling if the enviroloons would allow us to drill the deposits that are closer, or even on land. Or maybe you were planning to power your home, your car, and everything else in your life that requires energy on the skittles that the unicorns we got with the election of President Iwon are crapping out everywhere.

    Oh, and if he appointed the right people to deal with it (tries and fails to stifle maniacal laughter), then surely he could spare a few hours to speak to the Scouts on their centennial Jamboree?

    T. Roosevelt was right. The presidency is a bully pulpit (using TR’s definition of “bully,” meaning “grand”). Obama’s not used it enough.

    On the contrary, he’s taken many opportunities to try to tell Americans and opponents how wrong he wrongly believes that they are. From “I won” (Great dialogue builder that is), to “Bitter Clingers”, to “I don’t have all the facts–the police acted stupidly”, The Lecturer-In-Chief has used his bully pulpit plenty. We’re very clear about what he does and does not believe in. We don’t agree, and resent being forced to go along.

    But again, irrelevant to a few hours of his time for the future of the country.

    You’re a neophyte at political stuff, I take it. In how many campaigns have you organized neighborhoods? Here in Texas, if you’ve voted fewer than five times, it means you’re not 20 yet, or you’re a guilty bystander. Which are you?

    Wow. You have organized a neighborhood campaign? Gee that changes everything. I guess I’ll just take my campaign work, my decades of voting, and my actual work IN government, and go home.

    That was certainly productive. Try to stay on point.

    E. You’re a first class denialist, you know? Check the president’s schedule — two hours on Iraq and Afghanistan every day, usually first thing in the morning.

    You mean THAT’S what that meeting is every morning? And I thought they were trading recipes. Last I looked, the morning was just…you know, the morning. That would leave 22 hours in the day. Plenty of time to make time for something important.

    You would do well to get a good biography of Franklin Roosevelt and study his wartime actions.

    I know much more about the man than you give me credit for, but thanks for the condescension anyway. It is so tasty coming from a good progressive such as yourself.

    F.

    spendulous boodle to ward heels, community ballot box stuffing activists, and union bosses, but people found out about the billions going to nonexistent Congressional Districts before the slush fund could be emptied

    You really don’t have a grasp on reality here. The stimulus bill was too small, by Republican demand (see also here), effective where it went and as far as it went, and not directed at all to activist, nor union bosses, nor are there any “nonexistent Congressional Districts” (what in the world was that supposed to mean?).

    Nonsense. President Iwon insisted that passage would keep unemployment below 8%, which didn’t even come close to happening, even with the bogus figures on the laughable “jobs saved” measure his administration introduced, as my fellow blogger, Geoff, has constantly pointed out every month when the previous month’s unemployment figures come out.
    http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/august-unemployment-data/

    The failure has been acknowledged…with the predictable spin attached…
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070703182.html

    And the “not big enough” nonsense isn’t explained by the fact that only 46.77% has been spent to date:
    http://projects.propublica.org/tables/stimulus-spending-progress

    “…a total of $6.4 billion reported as being allocated to 440 nonexistent, or “phantom,” Congressional districts.”
    http://watchdog.org/2255/stimulus-funds-phantom-zip-codes/

    Obama taking too many vacations? Hypocrite. Obama’s been a workaholic in recent history.

    You are going to compare Obama’s year and a half to Bush’s entire term? With mad skillz like that, you ust be one of his economic advisors!

    (By the way, Obama’s been to the Gulf of Mexico five times, including his recent “vacation” showing that Gulf resorts are still great destination — one of the best ways to boost the oil-spill-damaged economies.)

    If he wanted to show that the Gulf was a great choice, he could have convinced Marie to take her 10 day stay in the Gulf. I’m sure they could have used the kind of money overseas to fix their economy. But for them? 27 hours. Wow. I guess he sure walks it like he talks it.

    2 Vacations in the first 40 days…two trips to the gulf during that time, one a PR visit, and I didn’t really want to count how many rounds of golf…all from the man who “wouldn’t rest until the hole was plugged”.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vVvrHPQZgs

    So we know you disagree with this president and will take any opportunity to sling mud, but you failed to tell us which of these issues you wish to sacrifice so Obama could go hobnob with those Scouts who survived the heat had he gone to visit them.

    He didn’t have to sacrifice any of these issues, and you’re delusional or juvenile to think it necessary. For the temporal cost of a round of golf or two, and considerably less time than his Gulf “vacation”, he could have made the time for something as important that could have been dealt with in the time you claim he couldn’t sacrifice on other issues in which the same amount of time spent by him would change nothing.

    You’re dancing around the issue, though, on the whole, you’re making a case that Obama has much better things do to with his time than take a day to see the Scouts, who also had much better things to do with their time than sit in the sun waiting for security to clear everybody into the arena.

    The only one dancing here is you, with silly claims that a few hours from his time that week would have made a crucial difference in priorities that he hasn’t affected with much greater blocks of time. But as long as you like the crease in his slacks, I imagine that is acceptable to you.

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  27. Regardless, we have departed from your silly implication that the Great Vacationer was so hard at work on this issue that he couldn’t spare a few hours for the future leaders of this country on a “historic” and “unprecidented” milestone of their organization.

    No, we haven’t. Obama took no vacation during the ten days of the Jamboree.

    You’ve not pinpointed what the schedule conflict was.

    As I noted, the schedules didn’t mesh. After the fiasco of 2005 with hundreds of Scouts needed medical attention and Bush being unable to make it that day, we don’t know that BSA didn’t advise against making an appearance when heat advisories were out.

    Several people have complained that Obama brushed off BSA for something more trivial. No one has provided any hard evidence.

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  28. Wow. You have organized a neighborhood campaign? Gee that changes everything. I guess I’ll just take my campaign work, my decades of voting, and my actual work IN government, and go home.

    Decades of voting, but nothing but whining about the results?

    Look, if you want to change things, we have federal elections every two years. Citizens of good standing (unfortunately, not an official designation) organize to make things happen.

    I suspected you’ve never bothered to seriously engage our political system. I asked politely.

    Yeah, I’ve organized neighborhoods, probably more often than you’ve voted. And counties. And states. And national campaigns. But don’t let experience and superior fact discourage you from doing something about it — next time around.

    We’re already deep into the 2010 cycle. You missed it again?

    Maybe I shouldn’t complain. As some serious wag once said, all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to stand by and do nothing. On the other hand, when evil and crabby people don’t bother to get involved, it makes it a lot easier to elect good people so good can triumph.

    What would it take to get you to sit at home on November 2?

    We had a lady who used to call into one of our state offices at least weekly, sometimes daily. She’d kvetch about something she claimed we did or didn’t do, usually screwing up the facts, often ignoring significan issues for trivial ones. On one August morning I visited the office and found one of our issues guys working away with his phone off the hook. He explained, as he picked it up and said, “Yes, I hear you Mrs. X,” that she was on a rant again about an issue that had gone through the whole summer without resolution. Our guy was wrong on it, she said, and he was also a fool for not allowing it to be voted on . . .

    “The senate voted on it last night. Our guy voted the way she wanted him to,” I explained. I hadn’t been able to get out of D.C. until the vote was over, and the morning news cycle hadn’t quite caught up.

    “Tell her that,” our guy said. So I picked up the phone and said, “Excuse me, Mrs. X. The Senate passed that bill last night, and our guy voted exactly the way you wanted him to.”

    She paused. “What?” she asked.

    “They voted the bill out last night. Sen. Hatch voted the way you wanted him to.”

    “That idiot!” she exclaimed, and she was off on a rant about how he should have voted as she expected him to vote, not how she wanted him to vote, and wouldn’t that gum up the works of the Senate, all the reporters, pundits, and probably the orbits of Saturn and Pluto (which was still regarded as a planet at that time).

    A few days later I was in the public records office, and I pulled the woman’s voting record. Hadn’t voted in a general election in more than a decade.

    You guys are giving me flashbacks.

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  29. You guys are giving me flashbacks.

    I’ve been traveling, so I missed the return of the liar.

    Nice to see you confess that the original claim is wrong, even if you backed into it.

    You’ve failed to note that the Jamboree started on the 27th – before the taping in NY. The President could have asked for an earlier attendance date. Something tells me that the BSA would have accommodated him.

    So, which of these should have been cancelled because saying “Happy Centennial” to Boy Scouts in person was more important:

    What an idiot. So the appearance on “The View” was more important than treating those issues? Attending fundraisers? Golfing? Vacationing?

    It’s a false choice, of course, and the fact that you continue to hew to it shows how utterly dishonest you are. Stay away from the Boy Scouts.

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  30. Decades of voting, but nothing but whining about the results?

    This is delicious, too. So Eddie’s landed on a political website which discusses current issues, fund raises for candidates, coordinates Tea Party meetings, and whose author attends national meetings of conservatives and reports on them here. And what does Eddie say?

    “You should get involved!”

    Pinhead.

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  31. we don’t know that BSA didn’t advise against making an appearance when heat advisories were out.

    Hahahahahaha!!

    We don’t know if Ed has any more fantasies concerning the situation. Look Ed, here are the facts:

    BSA invited him.
    Obama said no, he was busy.
    Conservative bloggers note that the taping on The View overlapped the Jamboree.
    Obama’s PR folk say “No, it wasn’t the Jamboree, it was fundraisers.”
    Conservatives don’t buy it, but it’s just as bad that fundraisers preempted the Jamboree, so it really doesn’t matter.

    …and then Ed wonders if maybe the BSA asked him not to come. Why? No particular reason. Just a random thought he had.

    And what did the BSA really say? They said (from the original article):

    “there’s always a spot” available for the president during the Jamboree.

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  32. We had a lady who used to call into one of our state offices at least weekly, sometimes daily.

    This is the only thing Ed has said that rings true. The liberal base populated with mental cases? That’s a dog bites man anecdote for sure.

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  33. To: Special Ed
    Re: Your comment at 6:30

    I do love how you got so far off topic that you refused to pay attention to the answer and instead chose to continue with a scold based upon your “superior fact” which was nothing of the sort.

    *knocks on Special Ed’s empty skull, ignores echo*

    Ed! I said that I have voted for decades, worked on campaigns and in government. You really have nothing on me, even if you want to imagine years of nothing but complaining, with nothing to support this “superior fact”.

    Really, neither logic or reason occupy the same space as your idiotic “issues”. You don’t agree. We get it. That doesn’t make you any less wrong. If you keep banging your sippy cup, we’re going to keep pointing and laughing, because we’re like that.

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  34. BiW:

    Ed only reads small subsets of comments, and then goes off on a tangent based on his limited understanding of the point. That’s why he picked only “decades of voting” from your list.

    It’s either a serious personality issue, or he’s just that dishonest. When you combine it with all his other flaws (clinging to fallacious arguments, lying outright, making up theories out of thin air), I suspect it’s both.

    I’m getting the creepy vibes from this guy. I don’t think he’s completely of our space-time continuum.

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  35. Geoff, he’s having trouble believing that the sooper sekrit talking points issued to him by the DNC, Think Progress, and MSNBC really aren’t as factual as he was lead to believe.

    He’s desperately trying to cling to something…anything that he can call a victory from this particular donnybrook so he can continue to cling to the fantasy that he’s so much smarter than us.

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  36. He’s desperately trying to cling to something…anything that he can call a victory from this particular donnybrook so he can continue to cling to the fantasy that he’s so much smarter than us.

    I guess that’s when my alarm goes off – when fantasy replaces reality. And this one seems to be getting further and further afield.

    But I really think the original story should be changed. The White House has admitted that they blew off the Boy Scouts so that the President could attend fundraisers for Democratic candidates. That’s not very presidential.

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  37. I went back and read several news articles. It appears that the President was invited to speak to the Scouts on Wednesday at 11 am (the 28th, the day he taped the interview on The View), but his tape was played on July 31.

    So there you have it, Ed. Same day. Not that it mattered – he could have rescheduled anyway. If he’d felt the Scouts were worth it. On their 100th Anniversary.

    So far you’ve been wrong about:
    o The nature of the scheduling conflict
    o Neglecting the fact that he could have rescheduled for anytime during the Jamboree
    o The Scouts wanting him there (they certainly did)
    o The Scouts objecting to him not being there
    o This blog attacking scouting
    o This blog never saying anything not involving “Scouts behaving badly”
    o The level of political activism here
    o The notion that national issues were somehow at stake

    That’s really not too bad for a lib, though. At least you didn’t start chirping about Bush stealing the election.

    Yet.

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  39. Well, Mr. President, who do you think are the mothers of these BOYS of America. What a stupid move. I hope all you Mothers out there are seeing how disrepectful Mr. President was to your boys, the 45K in attendence, the 3.8 million boys in the Scouts their families, and the 1.2 million voluteers the Scouts have! I’m sure the show was not worth it!

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  40. Ok, I remember the 2010 National Boy Scout Jamboree… An event of a lifetime… and whoever posted this article… please let me tell you how big of an fucking idiot you are and how lame your article is… All the Scouts in that stadium booed at his message… I couldn’t even hear it. Besides the point, the FIRST President to sit on a daytime talk show??? WELL DOESN”T HE GET A GOLD STAR!!! The 100th year of Boy Scouts only happens once, a president sitting on a daytime talk show can happen anytime… Whoever wrote this article, I hope you think about that… I would compare it to having a wedding without your bride/groom. It was total crap that he went to go on some talk show I have never heard of… Thanks Obama for ruining it… And to you who wrote this article, I hope you have more consideration for the Boy Scouts because your article is complete bullshit.

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  41. And to you who wrote this article, I hope you have more consideration for the Boy Scouts because your article is complete bullshit.

    Irony is apparently lost on some people.

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