Anti-Obama Marine Facing Dismissal From The Corps

In a preview of the cover story in the latest issue of Marine Times, The Military Times reported on the anti-Obama sentiment that has taken hold of many Marines, exemplified by Sgt. Gary Stein, who  “might be saying things about President Obama that a lot of Marines think, but some are saying he took it too far “.

Stein has come under fire for stating on Facebook that he wouldn’t follow certain orders given by his commander in chief.  And Marines say Stein’s not alone in his disapproval.  More anti-Obama talk is being heard in the workplace and new Military Times poll data shows declining approval among military service members for the president’s job as commander in chief.

The Marine Corps depends its chain of command structure, especially in a time of war.  Some Marines say Stein and other vocal Marines like him are undermining that system.

Now, Fox News is reporting that Stein is  facing possible dismissal from the Corps.
SAN DIEGO –  A Marine sergeant who started a Facebook group that is openly critical of President Barack Obama and posted comments saying he will not follow the unlawful orders of the commander in chief is facing possible dismissal from the Corps.
The Marines on Wednesday told Sgt. Gary Stein — a Camp Pendleton Marine who started the Facebook page called Armed Forces Tea Party — that he is in violation of Pentagon policy barring troops from political activities.

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 “I’m completely shocked that this is happening,” Stein said. “I’ve done nothing wrong. I’ve only stated what our oath states that I will defend the constitution and that I will not follow unlawful orders. If that’s a crime, what is America coming to?”
Stein said he planned to fight the charges. He had applied to extend his service, which was set to expire in a few months.
 

I guarantee that this isn’t just a Marine Corps issue.

That said, when you sign up, you don’t get to choose which President’s orders you follow and which ones you don’t…you just hope the people at home make a good choice at the polls.

See video of the Military Times’ coverage of the issue at the link.

You can show your support for Sgt. Stein by ‘liking’ thePatriots for Sgt. Gary Stein Facebook page.

 

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23 thoughts on “Anti-Obama Marine Facing Dismissal From The Corps

  1. Sgt. Gary Stein Is an idiot!—His boss is the commander-in-chief (the president). He doesn’t have to like the president, but he should have respect for this constitutional office and responsibilities. – In my opinion Fox News and the Tea Party are destroying the Republican Party and damaging our republic with misinformation and distortions … case in point, Sgt. Gary Stein.

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  2. Me thinks Stein is pulling a ‘Fluke’. And, he is not the idiot some might make him out to be. His oath is to obey lawful orders. To say he will not obey unlawful orders is to move the discussion in a particular direction. Like Ms Fluke, Stein may be simply using his circumstance (in his case nearing end of enlistment) to make a point about the uncertainty regarding Obama’s qualification to hold the commander in chief title. I could argue that in doing so Stein is showing respect for the office and responsibilities. The question at hand is whether Obama is a natural born citizen and eligible for the office. Stein suspects not. I suspect not. When Stein enlisted he had to provide a real birth certificate – well, I suspect he did – as it was required of me when I enlisted in the Marines. By real birth certificate I mean to say a notarized copy of the actual document – not a photoshopped image such as that offered up by Obama. The damage being done to the republic is not from those who ask legitimate questions but rather by those who would blindly follow any order or command.

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  3. Simply a prelude to the time in the not-too-distant future when the president will create a national emergency (along the lines of 9/11) and declare martial law, and MUST have the backing of the entire military establishment.

    Stein is not required to follow all orders, but is required to follow all LAWFUL orders. The trick will come when determining what is a “lawful” order when the declaration of martial law comes, and Stein (or any other non-political grunt) won’t have the luxury of defining that himself – it will be defined by the hacks around the prez and by such people as the gifted Latina and the old HAG on the SCOTUS.

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  4. Um – What point, tlips? Fox News doesn’t cover the eligibility issue any more than other news outlets – which is to say barely at all, and only to discredit it. So – as usual, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

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  5. ” as usual, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.” — Thanks Deb! — Perhaps you can show statistics to support your statement about Fox News or is this more BS.

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  6. Deb, I assume you love our country? So how does your everyday negative and exaggerated blog posting unify Americans (except for the Right Wing Extremist)? Are you helping our country or hurting our country? – In my opinion all of us need to work together to solve our problems, alone we will fail.

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  7. You want “statistics” to prove a negative? Uh…no.

    You need to prove to me that Fox engages in birther misinformation and and distortion since you’re making that claim.

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  8. So how does your everyday negative and exaggerated blog posting unify Americans (except for the Right Wing Extremist)?

    Huh? Since when is my blog supposed to be about “unifying Americans”?
    I can see how this post could be construed as “negative” because it’s about an anti-Obama Marine, but how is it in any way, “exaggerated”?

    I love my country, which is why, day in and day out I expose the Communist left who is trying to destroy it.

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  9. Here is one Fox News source: http://mediamatters.org/research/201104200008

    “I love my country, which is why, day in and day out I expose the Communist left who is trying to destroy it. “ Deb – The so-call “Communist left” will never destroy this country because most Americans are in the middle leaning right, thus Congress won’t allow it. As such, Obama is always being forced towards the center. – If you truly love America then stop dividing Americans… suggest posting reasonable solutions, not attacking the President all the time. If you aren’t helping, you are hurting …

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  10. Show where Fox News has covered Obama eligibility more than any other news outlet has. Last Spring it was in the news because Trump was making an issue of it. Also – Media Matters? Really?

    The so-call “Communist left” will never destroy this country because most Americans are in the middle leaning right, thus Congress won’t allow it.

    Obama has already gone around Congress and the Constitution a number of times, and if he is is re-elected, there will be nothing to stop him.
    If you truly love America then stop dividing Americans… suggest posting reasonable solutions
    Like Paul Ryan’s Road to Prosperity? Yep, I’m a multi-tasker – I can suggest reasonable solutions, AND attack the lying usurper.

    tlips, look –you are a very poorly disguised “concern troll” – a lefty trying to pass himself off as a moderate, and I have very little patience for dishonest trolls. Consider yourself on notice.

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  11. Deb, Thanks for Deleting my posts. – What a waste of time, people like you are unable to apply critical thinking and simply assume that if someone doesn’t agree with your extreme views they are either lying (I’m a real moderate & voted Republican 98% of the time) or an idiot (I design software solutions and solve problems for a living). – I actually feel bad for you, because you must view the world as so negative and with limited possibilities.

    BTW, I’m NOT Anon.

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  12. I just rescued your “LOL!!!” comment from the spam bucket. Do you really think I would censor that, while preserving your more nonsensical posts? Talk about your “critical thinking”!

    Anon is short for Anonymous, which is – um- who you are at the moment because you’re not going by tlipcome555 for whatever reason.

    Pssssst: Pro-tip for future trolling ventures: A Republican would never link to Media Matters as a source for anything but enemy propaganda, or participate in anti-Eric Cantor flashmobs on Facebook.
    -Just sayin’.

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  13. “A Republican would never link to Media Matters”, a Moderate Republican would/does. Certainly Conservative Media Outlets aren’t going to attack Fox News. Furthermore, I really don’t care so-much about the source. I care about the truth. – Thanks for explaining that ANON is an acronym, didn’t know that. And when I posted Anonymous, I thought I was still logged-in. Anyway, I’m sure you can read my IP Address. – I haven’t posted on Eric Cantor’s FB site in months and posted on his site in relations to the debt crisis. – I find it rather insulting that you believe I am a Liberal posing a Republican Moderate. I simply believe all things should be in balance and find extremism dangerous. As you believe the political left as dangerous, I believe if either political side gains too much power then our life style is in danger. That said, I see the current greatest danger from the far right, typically from the Tea Party. My opinion is based on the unwillingness of the Tea Party to compromise. Our Government cannot function without compromise.

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  14. tlips – give it up, pal, you’re embarrassing yourself. Concern trolls are so very easy to spot – and sooo 2007/2008.
    You think I haven’t seen this before?

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