Fireworks at the Forum – Jacob Turk Takes Hispanic Student To School (Video)

When Republican candidate for US Congress, Jacob Turk went to a candidates forum at Penn Valley Community College in Kansas City’s urban core, Tuesday morning, he knew that he was going to be a tough sell to the youthful, liberal audience.

A Hispanic girl certainly played her part well, when she asked what I imagine she thought was a trick question,  “what is your definition of America and freedom?”

“We have liberty to do what we each choose, without stepping on the rights of somebody else”, Turk responded.

The girl then pounced –  see if you can follow her logic:

“On your website – (so this would be quoting you directly) – you say,  I am against illegal immigration, I oppose amnesty and I support legal immigration. You just said that you shouldn’t be stepping on the rights of anybody else, and you said that freedom was for everybody… now, if you’re saying that, why can’t I can’t bring up my cousin and my uncle from Mexico to live with me to chase the same American dream that you want, and if he does come, why are you totally allowed to step on his liberties…?”

She bellicosely continued; “You say Hispanics and illegal aliens in general are the ones taking up all the space in your prisons….”

Jacob countered – “That’s not from my website…”

She insisted it was, much to the delight of the other students.

Oh, for crying out loud – here’s what’s on his website:

I am against illegal immigration. I oppose amnesty.

I support legal immigration.

The porous southern border MUST be closed, our northern border security beefed up, and our ports secured. For our southern border, I would insist that the 700 miles of double layer fence that was mandated by Congress in 2006 be built.

Hospitals are overwhelmed, school resources are used up, our law enforcement resources are drained, and our prisons are overflowing in large part due to the waves of illegal aliens invading this country. Americans are paying BILLIONS of dollars, hand over fist, to subsidize the cost of ‘cheap’ labor, and allowing it to continue is a loss for our economy.

I do not support any additional immigration reform until our borders are secured and illegal immigration is halted. When the fence is built and the border secured, we can move forward on retooling our immigration system.

We say loud and clear:

BUILD THE FENCE. SECURE OUR BORDERS.

So – no – he didn’t say Hispanics and illegal aliens  are the ones taking up all the space in our prisons. He  said “our prisons are overflowing in large part due to waves of illegal immigration invading the country.” And he’s absolutely correct about that.

But she thundered on, “you say we’re taking up space in your prisons… (and then her “coup de gras”)….when for a fact we take up less than 10% and the majority taking up space in your prisons are WHITE!!!11!

Oh dear….

Alas, no.

The latest statistics on the racial make up of the prison population doesn’t even come close to bearing out Little Miss La Raza’s claim.

In reality, Hispanics made up 20.6% of the total jail and prison population in 2009. Non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison population. So 60% of the prison population is comprised of blacks and Hispanics who together, only make up 30% of the US population.
On June 30, 2006, an estimated 4.8% of black non-Hispanic men were in prison or jail, compared to 1.9% of Hispanic men of any race and 0.7% of white non-Hispanic men. U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics.[41]
According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population in 2009.[43][not in citation given] According to the 2010 census of the US Census Bureau blacks (including Hispanic blacks) comprised 13.6% of the US population.[44][45][46]

Hispanics (of all races) were 20.6% of the total jail and prison population in 2009.[43] Hispanics comprised 16.3% of the US population according to the 2010 US census.[44][47] The Northeast has the highest incarceration rates of Hispanics in the nation.[48] Connecticut has the highest Hispanic-to-White ratio with 6.6 Hispanic males for every white male. The National Average Hispanic-to-White ratio is 1.8. Other states with high Hispanic-to-White ratios include Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and New York.[49]

The Hispanic community is not monolithic, and thus there are variations, even with incarceration rates. Among the Hispanic community, Puerto Ricans have the highest incarceration rate, and are up to six times more likely to be incarcerated than whites, and may explain the higher incarceration rates for Hispanics in the Northeast region.[50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58]Illegal immigrants, usually of Mexican origin, also make up a substantial number of Hispanics incarcerated.[59][60][61]

In 2010 black non-Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 4,347 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents of the same race and gender. White males were incarcerated at the rate of 678 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents. Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 1,755 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents.[42][62] For female rates see the table below.

However, black majority cities have similar crime statistics for blacks as do cities where majority of population is white. For example, white majority San Diego has a slightly lower crime rate for blacks than does Atlanta, a city which has black majority in population and city government.[63]

Census data for 2000, which included a count of the number and race of all individuals incarcerated in the United States, showed for each state that the proportion of blacks in prison populations exceeded the proportion of whites among state residents in every state.[64] In twenty states, the percent of blacks incarcerated was at least five times greater than their share of resident population.[64]

If she had been on her game, she would have cited the correct numbers and blamed it on institutional racism.

Jacob responded by making the obvious point that when he referred to our rights – he was talking about American citizens.

He made another obvious point in saying that he and his wife, Donna, “are not the Republican party”.

Then he went on to make the case for immigration reform, but only AFTER the United States follows our current immigration laws.

5 thoughts on “Fireworks at the Forum – Jacob Turk Takes Hispanic Student To School (Video)

  1. I moved out of Denver because of illegals-it was disgusting. Many come to this country and have absolutely no intention of assimilating-they actually hate us. They use my country for a toilet, commit crimes, drive uninsured & unlicensed and could care less because our jails & police are cakewalks compared to the shitholes they come from.

    People say, but MM how can we deport 20 million people, many here for most of their lives. The very first thing they did when they came here was to break the law, THE FIRST THING. It’s a tough pickle but it’s our own fault for not enforcing our laws. I’ll tell you this, if the shoe was on the other foot and you had been an illegal in Mexico for years, they ain’t cutting you any slack. You’ll probably do time and be deported. Do we allow bank robbers to walk because they have children? You broke our laws and then have the nerve to say, oh my children???

    I would immediately build the fence and man it. I would deport anyone that openly flaunts their illegal status and anyone that protests our laws. I would deport any illegal caught committing ANY crime and any illegal now in prison after they do their time. I would not allow any illegal any kind of welfare, education or medical care. If an illegal is in need of hospitalization, fine, they’re treated and than deported. I would require proof of citizenship for employment or renting. This abuse of our country is ridiculous and must stop.

    And for good measure, since Mexico can’t do it, I would send our military into the northern most 100 miles or so of Mexico and wipe our every last cartel mercilessly.

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  2. One thing I would like to add, though – I’ve met many wonderful Hispanics (especially when I was in South Florida, earlier this year) and I don’t know the immigration status of every individual I meet. I don’t appreciate illegal immigration, or the selfish entitlement attitude that people like this girl epitomize, but I wouldn’t want to denigrate all Hispanic immigrants because there are some bad apples.

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  3. I agree 100% with your sentiment nd but if you’re here illegally, it negates everything that follows. Some of the hardest working men I’ve ever seen are Latinos and the vast majority here are looking to bank and nothing more. They have no desire to become Americans and that’s fine. Get a temporary work permit and make all the money you can.

    With that kind of set up, I still would deny any education, medical or social welfare benefits to someone here temporally. If they need medical care, they can pay for it. No more anchors, 1 permit, 1 person.

    In the 70s, I would hop down into Mexico 3 or 4 times a year-I loved it. I’d drive to the border, park and train/bus it into the interior. The people were wonderful, the beaches are gorgeous and the reefer was the best(hey, I was young) To this day, Mexican food is my favorite and I don’t mean these cheese bomb burritos that most Mexican restaurants serve. It’s a whole ‘nother enchilada these days-I wouldn’t think of a vacation there, even a jet in, jet out.

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  4. I was at the forum and a number of the students were offended that this student said her Mexican relatives were entitled to come here – that their liberty depended upon her being able to bring them to the U.S. Her fellow students said clearly that they disagreed with her – that they were all for legal immigration, but were really put off by this gal’s notion that folks from other countries had a RIGHT to come to the US, even illegally.

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