Rand Paul: We Should Let Dems Raise Taxes And Then Let Them Own It (Video)

Tea Party conservative Rand Paul, today, proposed what I’ve been saying – Let the Dems have their stupid tax increase so they can unambiguously be the party of high taxes, and when the economy tanks, people will know who to blame.

Via RealClearPolitics:

SEN. RAND PAUL: I have yet another thought on how we can fix this. Why don’t we let the Democrats pass whatever they want? If they are the party of higher taxes, all the Republicans vote present and let the Democrats raise taxes as high as they want to raise them, let Democrats in the Senate raise taxes, let the president sign it and then make them own the tax increase. And when the economy stalls, when the economy sputters, when people lose their jobs, they know which party to blame, the party of high taxes. Let’s don’t be the party of just almost as high taxes.

LARRY KUDLOW, CNBC: Some people have called that the doomsday scenario. Others have said, ‘Look, it’s a strategic retreat on the Republicans’ behalf.’ Would you vote present for that in the Senate if that came up?

RAND PAUL: Yes, I don’t think we have to in the Senate. In the House, they have to because the Democrats don’t have the majority. In the Senate, I’m happy not to filibuster it, and I will announce tonight on your show that I will work with Harry Reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that’s what Harry Reid wants, because then they will become the party of high taxes and they can own it.

If there’s a better solution than this or “let it burn” (which is not a solution to anything), I’m all ears.

UPDATE:

Krauthammer’s idea may work – but it may not work:

What should Republicans do? Stop giving stuff away. If Obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff. And then let the new House, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the Bush tax cuts.

Obama will counter with the usual all-but-the-rich tax cut — as the markets gyrate and the economy begins to wobble under his feet.

Result? We’re back to square one, but with a more level playing field. The risk to Obama will be rising and the debt ceiling will be looming. Most important of all, however, Republicans will still be in possession of their unity, their self-respect — and their trousers.

Obama may be perfectly happy with going over the cliff with the tax hikes and cuts to the military – and blaming Republicans for the ensuing misery because they wouldn’t work with him.

SEE ALSO:

David Limbaugh: It’s Time To Turn the Tables on this Presidential Bully:

Previously:

Only 19% Favor New Government Stimulus Spending To Jump Start Economy…

Credit Where Credit is Due: Obama’s Awesome Economy (Video)

Only 19% Favor New Government Stimulus Spending To Jump Start Economy…

Via Rasmussen:

President Obama is calling for $200 billion in economic stimulus spending in his proposal to avoid the “fiscal cliff,” but few voters believe increased government spending will stimulate the economy. Most think tax cuts are the better way to go.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 19% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should increase federal spending to help stimulate the economy. Sixty-two percent (62%) oppose new spending as an economic stimulus. Nineteen percent (19%) are undecided.

This should serve as a lesson to Republicans that not all liberal narratives win out in the end. Obama’s near trillion dollar stimulus of 3/09 was such an abject failure, no amount of government sanctioned propaganda could redeem it. Nobody but hardcore leftists wants a Stimulus II.

That’s why I’m arguing that Republicans should agree to a modest tax hike on upper income earners to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which would be devastating to the economy and to our national security.  Obama is playing a political poker game, and it’s great fun for him, because he has all the cards. He doesn’t care a whit  if we go over the cliff because he knows Republicans will get blamed for it and by demanding that Republicans agree to his tax increase,  he believes  the Republican party will be fractured.

That’s why Republican leaders must make clear that any increase agreed to was made under duress. As I said, the other day — make sure the public understands that Republicans are giving the President his tax increase only because it’s what the people who voted for him wanted, and because it’s better than the alternative – going over the cliff -  not because it is the right thing to do. No smiles, and public pats on the back. They will need to be sore losers and tell everyone that hiking taxes on anyone while the economy is struggling is a bad idea, and they should walk out rather than vote for the shit sandwich.

As Keith Koffler proposed:

Republicans have a lot of leverage, as I’ve written. But they cannot move Obama on this, because otherwise Obama is nothing. What they should do is offer to raise rates by the smallest amount imaginable, offering him the tiniest fig leaf to cover his nakedness on deficit reduction. A tax increase is a tax increase, after all, whether you do it through rate adjustments or ending deductions. And it won’t destroy the Republican Party.

Not giving Obama a small rate increase would plunge the nation over the cliff, resulting in a second recession and massive pain for the country.

Later on down the road, when the double dip recession hits, yes – people like Paul Krugman will say it’s the Republicans’ fault because they didn’t agree to a larger tax hike. It won’t fly.

Just like the argument that the stimulus didn’t work because Republicans didn’t let Obama have an even bigger one, it will fail to convince any but the most die hard leftists..  Obama owns the failure of his Stimulus, just like he’ll own the failure of his tax the rich scheme, which Republicans only agreed to to avoid going over the cliff.

Hat tip: Weasel Zippers

ATF’s William McMahon Fired in the Wake of Fast and Furious Investigation

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Sharyl Attkisson of CBS, reports that “heads are beginning to roll” two years after the fast and furious  scandal came to light. I would argue that heads aren’t rolling until we see these guys in orange jumpsuits….hundreds of people are dead because of this…

 William McMahon, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) official who was in charge of field operations during the controversial operation, has been fired, according to his attorney Mark Zaid who told CBS News “we will be appealing the decision.”

Other ATF managers reportedly face similar fates, and announcements could be made soon, though neither they nor their attorneys would confirm it. They are: Mark Chait, who was ATF’s assistant director for field operations; Bill Newell, who was ATF’s Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix; and George Gillett, Newell’s second in command. Chait’s attorney David Laufman stated in an email: “Mr. Chait has not been advised of any adverse finding or recommendation by the Professional Review Board at ATF, and any such action would be utterly without merit.”

Another key Fast and Furious figure who’s leaving the Justice Department today is Attorney General Eric Holder’s chief of staff Gary Grindler. Grindler was faulted by the Justice Department’s Inspector General for not informing Holder about the “significant and troubling” link between ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious, and rifles found at the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010.

In announcing his departure this week, Holder made no mention of Fast and Furious, and said Grindler “has demonstrated time and again his good judgment and an ability to make the tough – and correct – decisions.” Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who led the House investigation into Fast and Furious, said Grindler’s “departure from the Justice Department is warranted and long overdue.”

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, which neither the Justice Department nor ATF would confirm, two other Phoenix-based agents have been recommended for disciplinary action: David Voth, who led the team that conducted Fast and Furious; and the lead agent on the case Hope MacAllister. According to the Wall Street Journal, they would receive demotions, reprimands and/or transfers.

Read Attkisson’s report for the list of other Justice Department and ATF officials faulted by the Inspector General in his IG report.

The Wall Street Journal reported via Sipsey Street Irregulars:

The managers recommended for termination, according to people familiar with the matter, are Mark Chait, former assistant director for field operations; William McMahon, who oversaw field operations in the Western U.S.; William Newell, former chief of the ATF’s Phoenix office; and George Gillett, the No. 2 official in the ATF’s Phoenix office.

In addition to dismissal, the officials’ security clearances would be revoked if the recommendations are accepted, according to the people familiar with the matter, a move that could hurt their future job prospects.

David Laufman, attorney for Mr. Chait, said “any adverse finding or recommendation by the PRB would be utterly without merit.”

Mr. Newell’s attorney, Paul Pelletier, declined to comment. Peter Noone, Mr. Gillett’s attorney, also declined to comment, saying he hadn’t received official notification.

Mr. McMahon has been the subject of criticism from lawmakers because he took a leave from his ATF post to take a global security management job for a bank, pending his planned retirement later this month. ATF officials took the additional step of dismissing Mr. McMahon last week, according to officials familiar with the matter, though that move is subject to appeal.

“Mr. McMahon was unfortunately the victim of a politically charged football match over an operation that was officially sanctioned, said Mr. McMahon’s lawyer, Mark S. Zaid. “As a result, he was terminated less than a month shy of achieving his 25-year pension. He’ll absolutely be appealing that decision.”

The two other ATF employees subject to disciplinary proceedings are David Voth, an ATF Phoenix supervisor who rejected complaints from agents about the operation, and Hope McAllister, a lead agent in the operation. Mr. Voth would be demoted to a street agent and Ms. McAllister would be subject to a reprimand and a disciplinary transfer to another ATF post.

Mr. Voth’s attorney declined to comment. Ms. McAllister didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. An ATF spokesman declined to comment.

Yes, it’s probably best for these attorneys not to comment…

Mr Voth, sometimes referred to as “the Omelet Man”, made this infamous statement to Agent John Dodson when he complained that letting guns walk was going to get people killed.

“If you’re going to make an omelet, you’ve got to scramble some eggs.”

He may or may not lose his job over this.

FYI, it should be noted that the DOJ’s initial reaction to the scandal was to promote key supervisors Voth, Newell, and McMahon and bring them to Washington DC:

Via The Los Angeles Times:

The ATF has promoted three key supervisors of a controversial sting operation that allowed firearms to be illegally trafficked across the U.S. border into Mexico.

All three have been heavily criticized for pushing the program forward even as it became apparent that it was out of control. At least 2,000 guns were lost and many turned up at crime scenes in Mexico and two at the killing of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona.

***

The three supervisors have been given new management positions at the agency’s headquarters in Washington. They are William G. McMahon, who was the ATF’s deputy director of operations in the West, where the illegal trafficking program was focused, and William D. Newell and David Voth, both field supervisors who oversaw the program out of the agency’s Phoenix office.

FYI II: Rediscovered news account sheds light on Fast and Furious deception:

Bill Newell was the one who sent Fast and Furious information to then-Director of North American Affairs for the National Security Council Kevin O’Reilly with the caution “You didn’t get these from me,” that O’Reilly was removed from the country to a State Department assignment in Iraq, and that, even with his return, the White House Counsel will not allow him to testify to the Oversight Committee, and he has refused to cooperate with the Office of inspector General.

Why does Kevin O’Reilly get to skate in all of this?

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