Forum: What Will Be The End Result Of The Iran Nuclear Deal?

Every week on Monday morning , the Council and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question: What Will Be The End Result Of The Iran Nuclear Deal?

The Independent Sentinel : Iran will continue to work on nuclear weaponry and intercontinental ballistic missiles during the term of the faux deal. They will threaten and menace their neighbors, the U.S. and anyone who travels through the Straits of Hormuz throughout the ten year period.

When the waiting period ends, they will be a nuclear state and we will all be afraid. A nuclear arms race will begin in the Middle East if the deal goes through. ISIS will continue to grow and they want nuclear weapons also.

Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has already said Iran is anxious to start selling nuclear material and they have allied with some seriously bad players – Syria, Russia, and North Korea to name three.

Obama is a traitor for promoting this deal. We won’t have any sanctions to fall back on.

This is a serious mess for the next president.

Don Surber : IntraMuslim Nuclear War.

The Noisy Room : Iran will get nukes… Obama will ensure it. After the deal is done, a full-blown nuclear arms race will erupt in the Middle East. Iran will profit financially and militarily. They will use their military strength with nukes as a form of extortion to get what they want across the

They will further ally with Russia, China and North Korea militarily. Eventually, they will use nukes against their enemies in the Middle East, Israel and the United States. They will use the Axis of Evil (Iran, Russia and China) as cover and World War III will kick into high gear. Iran will close off the Straits of Hormuz and oil prices will skyrocket as war spreads. Iran will also seize geographic territory as they spread their military might further. War, death and apocalyptic scenarios will ensue to usher in the 12th Imam.

 JoshuaPundit : In the end, I don’t think it matters.

The Iranians have consistently accused the Obama team of misrepresenting what was agreed to since November of 2013, so there are still huge gaps between what Iran and the P5+1 see as the so called interim agreement. Virtually nothing we were told by John Kerry back in 2013 has proven to be true, and whenever the Iranians have challenged Obama’s team on it, the result has been to either back down to the Ayatollah’s demands or extend the deadline for more talks, with a handsome cash bonus to the Iranian regime for the privilege of their presence.Actually it’s been revealed that Iran’s nuclear stockpile has actually grown during the talks by 20%!  Aside from that,all  that’s been achieved is that Iran got billions in badly needed economic relief and a year and a half of time to continue working on its missiles and its nuclear weapons program.Even the verification we were promised to sell this is a farce. The Iranians have made it clear that they won’t allow snap IAEA inspections or any inspections at all of military sites like Parchin or Fordow.

Any deal that gets made will be toothless. whether it goes through congress or this president  pushes it through the UN. And even if there is no deal, the sanctions regime is over anyway. Countries and businesses are lining up to do business with Iran.

An American military response is out  as well. President Obama needs the Iranians to do the dirty work on the ground in Iraq to clean up the problem he caused by creating ISIS. And his Iranian-born consigliere Valerie Jarrett wouldn’t allow it, nor would I trust a feral incompetent like our president to carry it out properly as C in C.

So that leaves several options for the future. The Israelis, to whom this is an existential matter may decide to take matters into their own hands, with or without help from the Saudis and the Emirates, whom have been beefing up their military after realizing what sort of man is in the White House. There are reports out there that Israeli PM Netanyahu wanted to do this in 2010, but that former Mossad chief Meir Dagan and former IDF chief of staff Gabi Ashkenazi, whom are associated with Israel’s Labor Party,  both refused to cooperate and that no less than former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaked intel on a coming attack to the Iranians. But Israel  now has a different government and very different people in those positions instead of Dagan and Ashkenazi.

Of course, a strike by Israel on Iran’s nuclear facilitates will give Barack Obama what he’s wanted from Day One, an excuse to end the American/Israeli relationship to the degree he’s able to, at least while he’s president. The Israeli may very well decide that it’s worth it at this point.

A second scenario involves ISIS. Take away our air support for the Shi’ites and ISIS is a legitimate check to Iran’s ambitions. Add an ittifaaqiyya (alliance) between ISIS,the Emirates and the Saudis (not at all implausible) and then throw the KSA’s attack helicopters and F-22s into the mix,  the playing field gets even more even. The Saudis even have their own missiles. That carnage could stalemate like the Iraq/Iran War in the1980’s and go on for years.

If Iran does actually strike the U.S. , they will almost certainly use one of their terrorist proxies to  try to mask their own involvement. If that occurs, and I certainly hope it doesn’t, the people of the United States whom voted Barack Hussein Obama into office have no one to blame but themselves.

Laura Rambeau Lee, Right Reason: As the June 30th deadline approaches the U. S. has lost any economic leverage by lifting sanctions, making Iran stronger and more emboldened. The U. S. continues to give concessions throughout these negotiations while Iran gives nothing. Nothing is going to change Iran’s core ideology. They remain state sponsors of terrorism and intent on the destruction of Israel. Iran is playing a long game while President Obama is desperate for a nuclear treaty before the end of his term. I don’t believe any treaty coming out of the Obama administration will be strong enough in limiting Iran’s nuclear ambitions to be ratified by the Senate.

The Glittering Eye : I think the Iranians are going to do whatever it is that they’re going to do regardless of agreements. I think the idea that the regime can be expected to honor an agreement or that they won’t have undeclared nuclear development is laughable.

Ask Marion : Just a day after Iran agreed to limit its nuclear program in exchange for lighter economic sanctions, the difference in the moods on the streets of Tehran and Jerusalem couldn’t have been starker. The temporary deal with the P5 +1 countries will give Iran access to billions in revenues as the United States, Great Britain, China, Russia, France and Germany suspend their sanctions on various items, including gold and petrochemical exports. Good idea? Probably not, if the end game is to stop enrichment! Netanyahu adamantly distrusts Iran, and rightly so, and decried the agreement as a “historic mistake” after it was announced.

We are dealing with people who are completely untrustworthy. This is a regime that murders their own people, creates mayhem and chaos throughout the middle east, throughout the whole world, and is the largest sponsor of terrorism.

This just opens the door wider for the possibility of nuclear war in the middle east, if not WWIII.

David Gerstman: If a deal is made it will be a disaster. President Obama has shown no inclination to hold Iran to any obligation. When Iran, for example, used a forbidden advanced centrifuge during the course of the Joint Plan of Action, the Obama administration didn’t call it a violation. It called it a mistake. To add insult to injury Obama and his administration then insisted that Iran obeyed the terms of the Joint Plan of Action and this proved the deal’s critics wrong. (There were other violations. This was the clearest.)

There is so much else wrong with this deal. Not the least of which is the freeing up of billions that will allow Iran to increase the financing its terrorist proxies.

However there is one person who may yet save Obama from making this deal, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.There is nothing I’ve seen that suggests that he’s interested in a deal. The deal announced in Lausanne wasn’t a deal (and it was two days past the deadline) it was an agreement to keep negotiating. Khamenei loves the “limited, targeted” billions in sanctions relief that he’s receiving. But he still hates America. I believe that he views a deal with the Great Satan is against his religion. I think that there won’t be a deal on June 30 or on January 20, 2017. Obama’s too invested to admit failure. So we’ll continue to have a muddled series of negotiations over the next two years. There will be announcements of progress, but they will always be less than a full agreement.Because Khamenei doesn’t want one.

Wolf Howling : Iran’s theocracy sees their primary purpose as being the export of their bastardized version of Khomeinist T’welver Islam around the world. To that end, they are supporting terrorism and chaos world-wide, from South America to Africa to the Middle East. Soon, Iran will likely control Syria, Iraq and Yemen to the same extent that they control Lebanon and to the same degree that they influence Hamas in Gaza. Iran’s theocracy have shown over the past thirty five years that they are implacable enemies of the West, in particular the U.S. and Israel, and that they are quite willing to wade through rivers of blood to achieve their goals.

Pretending that giving Iran a nuclear arsenal will moderate their theocracy is sheer suicidal fantasy. War with this regime, as they reach the brink of a nuclear arsenal, is inevitable. The only question is whether we engage in it sooner, when we can be assured of victory at a relatively nominal cost, or whether that war, after Obama’s suicidal proposed nuclear deal, comes fifteen to thirty years down the road, when Iran has had the opportunity to greatly increase it’s military capability and has a significant nuclear arsenal. I see little difference between the triumphalism, expansionism and amorality of Iran’s theocracy today and the triumphalism, expansionism and amorality of Hitler’s Third Reich circa 1937 but for one critical difference. Iran’s theocracy does not operate according to the Western standards of rationality — something that Obama and virtually the entire left seem unable to grasp. The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction is not a defense against Iran’s use of nuclear weapons, it is an inducement. Theirs is a regime more dangerous than Hitler’s.

By waiting until Germany had rearmed, war against Hitler cost tens of millions of lives and ruined the economy of Western Europe for decades afterwards. And of course, Germany only had conventional weapons at its disposal. A nuclear armed Iran poses an existential threat to every country, including America, within range of its ballistic missiles. And that does not even begin to consider the threat to the U.S. and the entire world from nuclear proliferation throughout the deeply unstable Middle East. All it would take would be one EMP to devastate half the United States. All it would take would be three or four dirty bombs to shut down our major ports and gut our economy.

We can only hope that Congress stops this insanity before Obama inks a deal, and then that the next President has the stones to begin dealing with Iran’s theocracy. The window for doing that at minimal cost in blood and gold is closing fast, even if Obama’s suicidal deal is not inked.

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Mob of Unruly Black Teens Crash Private, End-of-School Pool Party, Harassing and Assaulting Party-Goers

Just so you know – that is not the headline we’ll  be seeing, this week, as the #BlackLivesMatter crowd is activated, and the media continues misreporting what happened.

Here’s the MSM version: 

A police officer in McKinney, Texas, has been placed on administrative leave after a video surfaced showing him wrestling a bikini-clad 14-year-old girl to the ground and aggressively confronting other teens at a pool party, police said Sunday.

You can thank NBC News for this damning screenshot – just look at this brute! She’s only 14-15 years old (I’ve seen both ages reported) and she “dindo nuffin!”


Police officers were first called to the scene about 7:15 p.m. (8:15 p.m. ET) Friday to respond to a disturbance at the Craig Ranch Community North Pool in the Dallas area. Several more calls came in reporting that juveniles at the pool were “actively fighting,” police said.

McKinney Police Chief Greg Conley said officers who arrived on scene “encountered a large crowd that refused to comply with police commands.” Eventually, 12 officers converged on the party, he said. No one was injured, he said.

Here’s the shocking video. (You can’t really see what’s going on when the cop decides to take the girl down because they’ve almost moved out of the frame, but it’s clear that he unholstered his gun when he was quickly surrounded by numerous aggressive teens.)

A case can certainly be made based on that video that the cop over-reacted, and used undue force, but the residents of the neighborhood (white and black) are actually praising his actions controlling the mob. They say that the seven minute video only tells one part of the story – and the there was no racial element to what happened. Cops were called after a group of 70 to 100 unruly black teens jumped fences, crashed the pool party,  and harassed party-goers – parents with young children.

Screenshots from social media via Weasel Zippers:

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Embry told the Dallas Morning News:

“This is not a racist neighborhood,” said Benét Embry, a local radio personality who witnessed the incident. “There are a lot of good people in this community. It’s unfortunate that an event like this brings the spotlight.”

Embry, who is black, said he appreciated the police officers’ speedy response in calming a rowdy situation.

“That’s what they are supposed to do, protect us. I don’t know any other way he could have taken her down or established order,” he said.

Embry said that the teenagers started jumping over the fence into the party and causing a disturbance. He said the teenage girl seen in the video was talking back to Casebolt.

Via Weasel Zippers:

There was a community end of school party at a private HOA community pool. Some people were properly there, somewhere between 70-100 others began to jump the fence, threatening and fighting with the homeowners, who called security and the police after the violence started.

Here was some of the violence.

This apparently is a fight/struggle between a resident and the woman who sent out the rave invite. She was the one who essentially created the problem, because the teens themselves wouldn’t know they weren’t actually legitimately allowed to be there.

Well that was charming.

Meanwhile, of course, the usual suspects have leaped into action, calling it a racial incident and demanding firings. (Note – the people calling it “racially motivated” were not there.)

Via the Dallas Morning News:

Local activist Dominique Alexander, said the incident was “definitely a racially motivated thing” and said Casebolt “acted like he was a wild animal, just running around.”

His group, Next Generation Action Network, plans to hold a march at 6:30 p.m. Monday at Comstock Elementary in McKinney.

No male officer “should ever touch a young girl, half naked, 95 pounds and slam her,” Alexander said. “That was out of line. He should be fired.”

Mothers Against Police Brutality, a local group, called for Casebolt to be permanently removed from his position.

The ACLU of Texas said in a statement Sunday that the incident “appears to be a textbook case of overuse of force.”

“A well-trained police department would have responded more cautiously, with less hostility, and using sophisticated crowd control methods that favor de-escalation not escalation,” the statement says. “Without question, guns were not needed and in fact risked turning a group of partying teenagers into a violent encounter that could have turned deadly.”

And of course, Ferguson’s own Deray Mckesson is now involved.

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I can’t wait until Obama weighs in. Clearly, the police acted stupidly, here. We definitely need his input.  If we’re lucky – Al Sharpton himself will get involved. I’m sure the community is begging him to organize some rallies.

What? You thought the police were demoralized enough, already, after months of anti-police race-mongering? You thought the sky-rocketing crime-rates all across the nation might be a hint that it’s time to knock off the #BlackLivesMatter BS?  Hell, no –  the racial grievance industry is just getting started. More fun is yet to come, and the MSM is happy to play along.

This ugly incident and ensuing media circus has one resident of the neighborhood saying it feels like someone came and “pooped all over our lives.”


And another resident weighs in.

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Welcome to Obama’s America, June 2015, where black mob violence is on the rise, cops are under fire for dealing with it, and the media plays up the phony, racialist narrative that fans the flames every. single. time.

It’s going to be a long, hot summer.


Weasel Zippers: Riots Break Out At #SummerJam At MetLife Stadium In New Jersey:

I’m sure white oppression is to blame for this, too.


Via Gateway Pundit:

Now here’s the rest of the story…
On Monday a local wrote in to Steve Noviello to tell the rest of the story.

PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported…

A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived.

This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies.

PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE.