$850 Billion Stimulus Package Would Funnel Money To ACORN

It looks like Obama’s little hobbyhorse, ACORN is slated to become a big beneficiary of the stimulus package.

Why am I not surprised? These Dems are so brazen, I swear…..clearly they aren’t serious about fixing the economy. House Republican Leader John Boehner‘s lays it all out  on his website:

The Democrat’s Job Creation” Bill Offers Taxpayer-Funded Bonanza for Organization Reportedly Under Federal Investigation Washington, Jan 23 – The House Democrats’ trillion dollar spending bill, approved on January 21 by the Appropriations Committee and headed to the House floor next week for a vote, could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). ACORN has been accused of perpetrating voter registration fraud numerous times in the last several elections; is reportedly under federal investigation; and played a key role in the irresponsible schemes that caused a financial meltdown that has cost American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars since last fall. House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and other Republicans are asking a simple question: what does this have to do with job creation? Are Congressional Democrats really going to borrow money from our children and grandchildren to give handouts to ACORN in the name of economic “stimulus?” Incredibly, the Democrats’ bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.” Funds for this purpose were authorized in the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, signed into law in 2008. However, these funds were limited to state and local governments. Now House Democrats are taking the unprecedented step of making ACORN and other groups eligible for these funds:

“For a further additional amount for ‘Community Development Fund,’ $4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110–289), of which— “(1) not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition for which eligible entities shall be States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities[.]” “(2) up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance […]”

The House Democrats’ trillion dollar spending bill also includes $1 billion for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program. CDBG funds are given by the federal government to state and local governments which often contract with nonprofits for services related to the purpose of the grant.

ACORN knows how to secure CDBG funds.  Audit reports filed by ACORN’s headquarters with the Office of Management and Budget show that ACORN spent $1,588,599 in Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program funds from FY 2003 through FY 2007.  It is not clear from these records when or from what source the funds were awarded to ACORN.  It is also not clear whether ACORN chapters or affiliates have received CDBG grants on their own.

House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) repeatedly urged President George W. Bush and other federal officials to withhold taxpayer funds from ACORN, including $17.2 million in federal grants awarded in December 2008 after numerous allegations of wrongdoing in connection with ACORN’s election activities were reported by the news media.

Leader Boehner also released a study of federal records in October 2008 listing tens of millions in federal grants received by ACORN.  A new updated and more expansive study reveals that ACORN has actually received millions more than first thought.  A review of the Federal Register and news releases issued by federal agencies showed that ACORN was awarded more than $53 million in taxpayer dollars.  This amount does not reflect the millions more ACORN has received in federal block grant funds awarded to state and local agencies which passed them on to ACORN.

Obscene. Why did Republican administrations allow this? There’s little chance of stopping it, now.

Here’s Boehner on Sunday’s Meet The Press:

Even John McCain is not willing to reach across the aisle for this stinkbomb.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) told “Fox News Sunday” this morning that he would not support the stimulus package as the House Democrats have written it because it includes too much wasteful spending. The stimulus currently includes $275 billion in tax cuts and doesn’t include Republican input or a spending timeline, McCain said.

“There should be an end point to all of this spending.say two years…The plan was written by the Democratic majority in the House primarily. So yeah, I think there has to be major rewrites, if we want to stimulate the economy,” McCain said. “I am opposed to most of provisions in the bill. As it stands now. I would not support it.”

Let’s pray that a filibuster is in the works.

Hat tip: Gateway Pundit

UPDATE:

Good news: It looks like the Republicans are actually willing to fight this.

UPDATE II:

Why people should be concerned about ACORN:

UPDATE III:

Contact information of your Congress critters can be found here, if you would like to let them know what you think of this and other pork in the stimulus bill.


55 thoughts on “$850 Billion Stimulus Package Would Funnel Money To ACORN

  1. AAARGH!! Where are the men with chests?!?
    What gets me is that the $300 million going to refund abortion clinics-I mean, “Family Planning” – is coming from the “Economic Stimulus Package.” I suppose the strategy here must be to reduce the numbers born to decrease the demand for jobs?
    (tongue in cheek)

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  2. 2nd try: Where are the men with chests?!?
    What gets me is that the $300 million going to refund abortion clinics-I mean, “Family Planning” – is coming from the “Economic Stimulus Package.” I suppose the strategy here must be to reduce the numbers born to decrease the demand for jobs?
    (tongue in cheek)

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  3. Well said, Buck. I’m so very grateful for the subtle eloquence you display in such a profound…statement? Phrase? Certainly it doesn’t qualify as a sentence.
    How very self-centered it is to provide funding for community development in a economic stim. package during a time in which our housing markets are clearly healthy (1 in every 416 houses in our country was forclosed).
    How heinous it is that ACORN will, by default, receive federal funding. Assuming that they have perpetrated any real crime, right? According to the investigations conducted, voter registration fraud was found to be the only violation they were guilty of. In case anyone is unclear as to what that is, it is falsely REGISTERING voters, not falsely casting votes. The only effect this has on democracy is hypothetically statistical; meaning that when you watch CNN (etc.) the numbers of registered voters in an area could be biased. Additionally, ACORN employees were essentially paid for work they did not do.
    Do not allow shallow, legally groundless beliefs to cloud your better judgements, such as opposing it because it could provide $300 million to abortion clinics. Let’s weigh these issues briefly: Abortion clinics and ACORN vs. prolonged recession.
    Have fun!

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  4. Are you pretending that ACORN is anything but a radical arm of the Democrat party that trains its organizers in Saul Alinsky tactics? Are you pretending that you don’t know the role that ACORN played in the housing crisis?

    Click to access ACORN_AHC_Report.pdf

    Do you really think that I would be so uninformed as to buy into your bull?

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  5. Very nice research, nicedeb. Your report comes from CRL, headed by Terry Libbe, former employee of the Cato Institute which is hardly a neutral and credible source. Terry now works on the Hill for Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA). CRL is merely a front name through which republicans use to ‘advocate’ consumer rights, more recently arguing on behalf of the credit-card industry.
    Said as plainly as possible, CRL supported the credit card industry while urging americans to take advantage of the low interest rates to pay down debt. Ironically enough, that appears to be part of the larger problem we are now experiencing, does it not?
    So to bring this thought full circle, nicedeb, you’re using research from an entity that has a hand in perpetuating the very problem you are criticizing, i.e. providing loans, excessive debt, etc.
    A nice try though, really.

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  6. Really Bob.

    Now you pretend that CRL is the only news source that has ever mentioned ACORN’s hand in the financial crisis, when there are in fact too many to count…

    Tsk, tsk…you really are full of it.

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  7. I never pretend.
    A majority of the accusations against Acorn that have surfaced prior to and after the election can be traced to CRL. And that report you used to support whatever claim it is that you have on this silly ‘I need a place to vent’ project you have here carries little-to-no merit based upon the research conducted by CRL in the past.
    I recommend being more well-read before you expect to be taken seriously by publishing nonsense on the internet, such as this page. People are watching you.

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  8. People are watching you.

    That sounds vaguely menacing, Bob.

    Are we getting to the point in America when citizens can’t object to federal money going to shady political organizations without being accused of racism, or hate speech? (Don’t insult my intelligence by telling me ACORN is “non-partisan”).

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  9. Vaguely menacing? It merely implies that people, as in you, that guy, and I are reading things on the internet.
    I do enjoying discussion though, especially on broad topics such as the one posed earlier by the advisor to the emperor, if that’s right. I’ll be sure to contribute to this discussion at a later time.

    You forgot the ‘c’ in cognoscenti.

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  10. A majority of the accusations against Acorn that have surfaced prior to and after the election can be traced to CRL.

    Why does CRL keep making ACORN engage in voter registration fraud, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams?

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  11. It merely implies that people, as in you, that guy, and I are reading things on the internet.

    Thanks for clarifying. You were giving me the heebie jeebies, dude.

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  12. A majority of the accusations against Acorn that have surfaced prior to and after the election can be traced to CRL.

    I’m sure that someone who “expects to be taken seriously on the web” can provide a citation for that statement.

    Ironically enough, that appears to be part of the larger problem we are now experiencing, does it not?

    Not really.

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  13. I had begun to think we may have turned a corner in this discussion towards someting more intellectually stimulating than the deconstruction sentences in the attempt to embarress each other’s misuse of syntex, but that apparently isn’t so. Therefore, I leave you with this.
    The stim. package will clear the House quickly, and bounce around the Senate for a bit longer. And though our new president has made several attempts to accomodate the GOP’s agenda, rest assured he will exert partisan power to pass this package if necessary.
    Be thankful that the GOP is granted the opportunity to voice their demands and have them seriously considered by the other side of the aisle as well as a democratic president. Let’s not forget the fluid partisan relationship that existed between our former president and congress a few years ago.
    I am all for bipartisanship and would classify myself as a moderate, but I am also for extensive debate. However, after reading several of your pages such as this one and witnessing the socially backwards ideas expressed, I cannot help but wonder how one be expected to engage in a reasonable debate with you.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose, reasonable or not. I will most likely never understand the reasons behind many ideas people share on these types of sites. Perhaps it is because, as you imply, me sitting too highly on my ivory tower. Or perhaps it is faith in ideas that involve logic, legality and pragmatism. Draw your own conclusions.

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  14. Perhaps it is because, as you imply, me sitting too highly on my ivory tower. Or perhaps it is faith in ideas that involve logic, legality and pragmatism.

    You’re not even moving the meter. You have made a series of unsupported assertions, and your original argument of “yes, they’re criminals, but not really really bad criminals” was silly. Now you’re all too happy to pat yourself on the back for an intellectual ascendancy you haven’t even begun to earn.

    I’m not even going to start on your historical revisionism.

    But this, at least, I can agree with, though I wouldn’t have used the future tense:

    rest assured he will exert partisan power to pass this package if necessary.

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  15. Wow, Bob, you cast aspersions like a fly fisherman on crack. If you can set down your consdescension long enough to apply some neutral analysis to things you said, then maybe we can engage in the real dialogue that I think you’ll find us all willing to have with you.

    I had begun to think we may have turned a corner in this discussion towards someting more intellectually stimulating than the deconstruction sentences in the attempt to embarress each other’s misuse of syntex, but that apparently isn’t so.

    Bob, go back and read the comments in order. This is one place where judicious application of the “Static Rule” might have saved us having to discuss this at all. What is the static rule? You don’t start none, there won’t be none. You saw fit to comment on my spelling. That made your sentance structure subject to “special scrutiny” rather than my normal deference, and in any event, it was a convenient way for you to avoid any discussion of the questions I posed before that point. I believe that’s called “misdirection”, and it is not well received here.

    Be thankful that the GOP is granted the opportunity to voice their demands and have them seriously considered by the other side of the aisle as well as a democratic president. Let’s not forget the fluid partisan relationship that existed between our former president and congress a few years ago.

    We could certainly have a spirited discussion about how the concept favors deliberation and the idea that if any bill makes it to the floor, all parties who vote on it should expect to “voice their demands and have them seriously considered”, and how Democrat majorities have done what they could to prevent this in the past. We could also discuss the level of arrogance in such a statement. After all, to imply that a deliberative body, which was intended to represent ALL of us could or should simply ignore the imput of members of parties not in the majority is more than a bit repugnant to the form and operations that were intended when the institution was established. I know that the Left likes to squelch dissent That would be real dissent, not the dissent that Cindy Shehan and other prominent lefties complained of for the last 8 years) in the name of unity and freedom, after all, Wilson and FDR certainly made their serious attempts to do so, but you’ll find that there is a certain segment in society today that refuses to be cowed by the displeasure and severe looks of the left.

    I am all for bipartisanship and would classify myself as a moderate, but I am also for extensive debate. However, after reading several of your pages such as this one and witnessing the socially backwards ideas expressed, I cannot help but wonder how one be expected to engage in a reasonable debate with you.

    Wow. I am not for bipartisanship if the result is bad law. Call me names if it makes you feel better, but my daily exposure to bad laws and the resulting messes and illogical results they create bring me to the conclusion that I would rather have our various legislatures accomplish nothing than pass laws cobbled together by compromise that do little or nothing to accomplish a positive result. As for the rest of your sneering statement, the reference to “socially backward ideas” remains but a naked assertion without any supporting evidence to back it up. In my profession, that leads to things like sustained objections against such assertions, and dismissals that are contrary to my clients’ interests. If that seems a bit much for you, then I will just fall back on my Missouri ancestry and say “Show Me”. This would have the additional benefit of having you bring something of value to the debate other than your derision and assumption that you are smarter than we are.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose, reasonable or not. I will most likely never understand the reasons behind many ideas people share on these types of sites. Perhaps it is because, as you imply, me sitting too highly on my ivory tower. Or perhaps it is faith in ideas that involve logic, legality and pragmatism. Draw your own conclusions.

    I’m so glad that you would deign to let us each form our own opinions. That is truly very magnanimous of you. Maybe you could understand these types of sights if you would make a genuine attempt to engage in real debate rather than pretending you can be correct by fiat, and by extention simply tell others that they are wrong, without ever mounting any meaning ful defense of your stated positions. As for your professed faith in ideas that involve logic, legality, and pragmatism, it might be a tad bit more believable if you did more than simply pay the concepts lipservice.

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  16. I am all for bipartisanship and would classify myself as a moderate, but I am also for extensive debate. However, after reading several of your pages such as this one and witnessing the socially backwards ideas expressed, I cannot help but wonder how one be expected to engage in a reasonable debate with you.

    Socially backwards…like pro life views?

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  17. That’s great, Dr. Juris, how kind of you to share your personal life with me. I had begun to wonder where your enlivening presence had gone to.
    You seem to be adolescently going through history and pointing fingers in a ‘who did what’ manner. Just because you read some historical account of the political makeup of our government some 75 years ago does not validate your blame game. The vicious cycle blame for, well every event that can be criticized, spirals through the decades and can be placed on both sides of the aisle. Clearly, an educated individual such as yourself, would know the use of words like ‘unity’ and ‘freedom’ have not been used only by the Left. If you want to point fingers, do not forget the last GOP president’s excessive expansion of the executive role and the power it has exerted using words like ‘freedom’ and ‘patriotism’ to jusitfy it.
    As for our deliberative body, I agree with you; to know our country you should look to congress because it does in fact represent the people. And certainly the majority should not be allowed to run rampant and dominate supremely over the minority…which it does not, and never really has since the authoring of the federalist papers. So please refrain from the attempt to lecture me on the interworkings of our congress. I have confidence in my own understanding, thank you. Surely you agree that for anything to be accomplished in a deliberative body, there must be a majority, whether it’s partisan or not. Majority ultimately does rule in the most civil manner.
    The Right’s ideas will be heard, some will be used and some will not. Though this may be hard for you to accept, the Right is no longer holds majority in either chamber. So I will fall back on my New England anscestry and say ‘quit your bitching and weather the storm’.
    Continue voicing your opinions so that they may be heard, but do not hold onto the false belief that things should be run in your own fashion. This ‘my way or the highway’ nonsense is detrimental to the legislative process and drives in the wedge further between us. It is now the Right’s turn to indulge in the art of compromise and allow the Left a chance at the helm.

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  18. the last GOP president’s excessive expansion of the executive role

    …known more accuratetly as the restoration of the diminished powers of the executive branch.

    This ‘my way or the highway’ nonsense is detrimental to the legislative process and drives in the wedge further between us.

    The Left, very famously, drove that wedge in hard throughout Bush’s presidency. So please excuse us if we’re not completely receptive to the current calls for reconciliation.

    It is now the Right’s turn to indulge in the art of compromise and allow the Left a chance at the helm.

    I don’t recall any compromises that the Left made in the last 5 years. I do, however, recall Democrats blocking bills, blocking judicial appointments, indulging in inflammatory, demeaning, and divisive rhetoric, and filibustering at every turn. You only have to hearken back to Nancy P.’s diatribe against Bush that cost her that first vote on the bailout package to see what I mean.

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  19. You only have to hearken back to Nancy P.’s diatribe against Bush that cost her that first vote on the bailout package to see what I mean.

    …or, if your memory doesn’t stretch back 4 months, you can simply read this all-too typical comment dropped on another thread by one of your brethren.

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  20. Bob, I am impressed. All those words to address the umberage that you decided to take on behalf of your self and the party you support, and nothing addressing the substantive points raised thus far or evidence to back your assertions. Can you do more than to say we express socially bcakward ideas and actually demonstrate it, or are you satisified looking over your glasses and implying that we’re all just unenlightened rubes or do I need to stop paying any more attention to you now?

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  21. Bob:

    A. Learn how to spell before criticizing. Embarrass not “embarress.”

    B. Mere voter fraud? Seriously? Did you miss the whole, “IT’S ILLEGAL” part or are you one of those liberal, ‘the ends justify the means,” people who don’t care how you get what you want so long as you get it?

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  22. However, after reading several of your pages such as this one and witnessing the socially backwards ideas expressed, I cannot help but wonder how one be expected to engage in a reasonable debate with you.

    I forgot to ask. How does that sound in the original Italian?

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  24. I love the fact that Nancy Pelosi evidently failed Math as far back as grade 4. She stated, “We stand to lose 500 million jobs.” Where does she think we can produce that many jobs in a nation of something between 300 and 400 million people? I’m particularly happy, Bob the builder, that you’re so impressed with this woman’s intelligence! And as for the “my way or the highway” remark; it wasn’t a Repub that engaged in that tactic. It was this “wise woman of the left” who portrayed that attitude in the House debates! Not once or twice, but continually since the Dems took over the House. And every time George Bush tried to accommodate her this rattlesnake bit him!
    Bob, I have no indication of either your occupation or the quality of your education. However, your arguments are sophomoric at best and unaccompanied by provable fact. Get a grip on yourself. I won’t use the phrase “my friend,” as I sincerely doubt that you would want to be a friend to me. And I expect this will be answered by your usual diatribe against your critics!

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  27. 5 Billion to Acorn? this poor stupid new administration, the next thing they are going to tell me their located in Chicago,
    great place to live if you don’t want to work and would like to live off of Gov. handouts

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  28. There is simply not enough space to type what needs to be said on this thread. Bob the Builder you speak somewhat pretentious and Im sure looking down your New England snout at many of us. However, you are incorrect sir to assume that we cannot read history and interpret just like the left. So tell me Mr Builder, where was the as you so eloquently said it –
    “Continue voicing your opinions so that they may be heard, but do not hold onto the false belief that things should be run in your own fashion. This ‘my way or the highway’ nonsense is detrimental to the legislative process and drives in the wedge further between us. It is now the Right’s turn to indulge in the art of compromise and allow the Left a chance at the helm.”
    Where was that during the 6 years of Bush hating by your beloved Left? The bumper sticker of 2009 Cant wait, Bush Lied people died. The shameful bashing by the liberal pansy faced media who embraced Chavez and defended Bill Aires.
    Right…go back to your lies and deceit and leave fairness and removing the political wedge between us to the real citizens of these United States and take that commie George Soros out with the rest of the liberal garbage.

    Good Day Sir!

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  29. So let me get this straight.

    “It looks like Obama’s little hobbyhorse, ACORN is slated to become a big beneficiary of the stimulus package.”

    OK lets do the math with the data from your own article.

    “ACORN knows how to secure CDBG funds. Audit reports filed by ACORN’s headquarters with the Office of Management and Budget show that ACORN spent $1,588,599 in Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program funds from FY 2003 through FY 2007. ”

    OK they got 1.5M over 5 years.. that averages about $300,000 a year. Not exactly a huge windfall. Thats .000041% of the total stimulus.

    And you are totally mis-characterizing what those block grants are for. States rely on those funds for servicing housing needs in small rural towns that HUD doesn’t deal with directly.

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  30. Um.

    Let’s talk about the *stimulus money*.

    The pot of money in the stimulus that ACORN is going to be eligible for is $1 billion. We don’t yet know how much of that they are going to get, but they shouldn’t get a single dime.

    The Vitter Amendment would have prohibited “direct or indirect use of funds to fund the (far left radical) Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).”

    That was struck down by the Democrats.

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  31. “The pot of money in the stimulus that ACORN is going to be eligible for is $1 billion. We don’t yet know how much of that they are going to get, but they shouldn’t get a single dime.”

    OK Sure… but your post is titled “$850 Billion Stimulus Package Would Funnel Money To ACORN” Now you admit you really have no idea how much money, if any, ACORN will actually get.

    Just because there is block grant money set aside in the bill you make the huge leap of logic that it will all end up with ACORN. If it DOES all end up with ACORN, I’ll be back on here posting angry messages about it as well because it will be a travesty.

    NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING in the bill specifically outlines money for ACORN. The whole Vitter amendment is simply blood in the water for frothing right-wingers. Sounds like you bought into it hook,line,sinker.

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  32. OK Sure… but your post is titled “$850 Billion Stimulus Package Would Funnel Money To ACORN” Now you admit you really have no idea how much money, if any, ACORN will actually get.

    Of course I knew it would be an unknown amount. But if you actually think that none of it will go to ACORN when they have a well known history of securing CDBG funds, you must be smoking rope. Of course they’re going to get a good portion of that money. Why do you think the Democrats struck down Vitter’s amendment?

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  33. Just because there is block grant money set aside in the bill you make the huge leap of logic that it will all end up with ACORN.

    Where, exactly, did she ever say that? Certainly not in the title.

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  34. I think we all know where Sen Vitter’s stimulus money goes!

    …..is this thing on?

    Seriously though. You and I have as much right to try to secure that money as ACORN does. Just go to grants.gov and throw your hat in the ring. So saying that this money will be going to ACORN just because ACORN MIGHT try to secure some of the grant funds is really really sketchy argument.

    “But if you actually think that none of it will go to ACORN when they have a well known history of securing CDBG funds, you must be smoking rope. Of course they’re going to get a good portion of that money.”

    I’ll peer into my crystal ball right now. ACORN probably WILL secure some of the funds. And it probably WILL be more than they have got the last 5 years (under a Republican administration mind you) But as a percent of the portion of the stimulus they are eligible for it will be minuscule.

    You are saying that ACORN is going to get a ‘good portion’ of that money. so.. whats that like 50%? 80%? .. lets even say 20% to be conservative. That’s like 200 million dollars. So ACORN will move from getting $300,000 in block grants to 200 MILLION in block grants. I’m sorry to say that’s detached from reality.

    “Why do you think the Democrats struck down Vitter’s amendment?”

    Because it was lame? Lets let them tell it in their own words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1FrY-m3xw

    OH, by the way. Remember all the hubub about voter ACORN voter fraud in Ohio. Well do you ever go back and look at the results of these inquiry? I’ll help you out with a link: http://news.cincinnati.com/assets/AB127202127.PDF

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  35. Yeah, that was one powerful “smackdown” by little Dick Durbin…..

    You’re kidding, right?

    How would you feel if the government funded the Klu Klux Klan? ACORN is a radical far left organization, Klu Klux Klan is a radical far right. You’re obviously too far left to understand how galling it is to conservatives to watch a group like ACORN receive government funds. Or maybe you do understand, and you think we’re stupid enough to believe the lame obfuscations.

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  36. “How would you feel if the government funded the Klu Klux Klan? ”

    Not good about it at all.

    “ACORN is a radical far left organization, Klu Klux Klan is a radical far right.”

    So ACORN = KKK ? Thats REALLY what you are telling me? That what ACORN does is equal to say, LYNCHING BLACK PEOPLE?!?! Geez people…
    Lets remember what that looks like:

    So is it any more galling than to have your beloved Sen Vitter earmark 100k for a Righty creationist group?
    http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/09/vitter_earmarked_federal_money.html

    ACORN obviously has its problems. It just kind of seems overhyped. Have any actual indictments or even any actual findings of fraudulently cast votes come from any of that pre-election ‘vote-fraud’ boondoggle?? I don’t think there has been any. You guys hyped ACORN more than Blago for god sakes… and that guy was a REAL bonafide douschebag.

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  37. I wasn’t equating ACORN to the Klu klux Klan, however, I would say ACORN is far more damaging to the country than the Klu Klux Klan as it’s currently configured. The Klu Klux Klan has little support and no influence in America, today, while ACORN continues its insidious activities, undermining America from within, and is supported monetarily and otherwise by many who wield power.

    I was trying to impress upon you how far left, and how damaging we on the right find them, and no, it’s not overblown. Giving money to this group is the very definition of insanity:

    Stanley Kurtz:

    Chicago ACORN’s campaign to intimidate banks into making high-risk loans to low-credit customers. Using provisions of a 1977 law called the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), Chicago ACORN was able to delay and halt the efforts of banks to merge or expand until they had agreed to lower their credit standards — and to fill ACORN’s coffers to finance “counseling” operations like the one touted in that Sun-Times article. This much we’ve known. Yet these local, CRA-based pressure-campaigns fit into a broader, more disturbing, and still under-appreciated national picture. Far more than we’ve recognized, ACORN’s local, CRA-enabled pressure tactics served to entangle the financial system as a whole in the subprime mess. ACORN was no side-show. On the contrary, using CRA and ties to sympathetic congressional Democrats, ACORN succeeded in drawing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the very policies that led to the current disaster.

    Let’s not do anything to change the behavior that contributed to the mess we’re in. No. Let’s reward it, and continue apace.

    ACORN has been indicted on fraud on many occasions, you didn’t check my link, did you? As for the Ohio case, the guy pleaded guilty. Other allegations weren’t proven, which is not surprising because voter fraud is very difficult to prove, once the fake registrations have been accepted.

    ACORN is way worse than that clown, Blago because of the insidious nature of its crimes, and the passes it gets out of “racial sensitivity”. It’s certainly done much more damage to the Republic than that buffoon.

    your beloved Sen Vitter

    Where’d you get that he was my “beloved”. Knowing his background, I think he’s a smarmy a-hole. And I’m against all earmarks, right or left.

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  38. People are still astroturfing? WTF? The election is over, dude, and Factcheck can kiss my ass. Everything in this post stands, in case you ever bothered to read it.

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