The Council Has Spoken!! This Week’s Watcher’s Council Results


Alea iacta est…the Council has spoken, the votes have been cast, and we have the results for this week’s Watcher’s Council match up.
Is it is, or is it ain’t?

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This week’s winner, The Noisy Room’s The Sandbagging of America is a sharp, well written examination of Edward Snowden and the NSA scandal, and her conclusion is that it’s definitely not what it’s been painted as. Here’s a slice:


I was wrong. When I first heard that Edward Snowden was exposing the NSA on PRISM, I thought, good… let it all come out. After all the scandals and crap Obama has been getting away with, like most of America, I wanted something to come out. To get some exposure for the bad guys. I was played.
Then I sat down, listened to my gut and thought about it for a bit.
My first inkling that I had it wrong, was when John Bolton came out and called Snowden a traitor and said he was guilty of an act of war. Bolton is someone I admire a great deal. He contended that Snowden had given ‘aid and comfort to the enemy.’ And indeed, he has.


I then had a discussion with my friend Trevor Loudon of New Zeal. He and Cliff Kincaid have looked extensively at Snowden and his connections to the avowed Marxist, Glenn Greenwald. If you will remember, Snowden released his revelations to Greenwald, The Guardian and The Washington Post (both papers are liberal rags).

You should know Greenwald, he addressed the International Socialist Organization‘s Socialism 2011 conference in Chicago: Al-Qaeda hoped a single attack on U.S. soil, very minimal in scope compared to the level of deaths that the United States has been bringing to the world for decades–from Vietnam to illegal wars in Central America–would trigger bankruptcy-inducing policies. Ironically, the only thing that can truly strengthen America’s national security is a weakening of America.

There is a valid argument that Snowden’s betrayal is a case of Chinese espionage. The Russians are also offering asylum. He is backed and supported by Russia Today, Iranian Press TV and by Al Jazeera. Julian Assange of WikiLeaks fame is also supporting him. George Soros’ Free Press and CODEPINK are right there cheering Snowden on. It’s a who’s who of bad guys on Snowden’s team. But wait, it gets better. Snowden’s story is Swiss cheese for spooks.

Here are a few inconvenient facts on Snowden:

The guy is a high school dropout. How did he get a classified position with the NSA?

He started out at the NSA as a janitor.

He learned Chinese while at the agency.

He made a whopping 122k at the NSA (he falsely claimed it was 200k).

He claimed he broke both legs while in special forces training. Not exactly… He was at Fort Benning when he broke them, while trying to get into the X-Ray program.

Snowden was at the NSA for three months – count em’ and then tell me how he was promoted from janitor to technical analyst. Really? Don’t think so.

He was a Ron Paul supporter, but voted twice for Obama.

In our non-Council category, the winner by a nose was Mark Steyn with Big Politically Correct Brother submitted by The Noisy Room. It’s pure Steyn, a comparison of the intense government scrutiny of conservative groups versus the the sort of non-scrutiny given to Muslims and Muslim institutions.

OK, here are this week’s full results:

Council Winners

Non-Council Winners

See you next week! Don’t forget to tune in on Monday AM for this week’s Watcher’s Forum, as the Council and their invited special guests take apart one of the provocative issues of the day with short takes and weigh in…don’t you dare miss it. And don’t forget to like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter…..’cause we’re cool like that!

One thought on “The Council Has Spoken!! This Week’s Watcher’s Council Results

  1. I’ve said from the very beginning that watching how the divide between libs/conservatives/libertarians was going to show up. It’s been amusing to say the very least. Ambassador Bolton, Dick Cheney, Teresa and Cliff Kincaid are people I find myself very seldom disagreeing with, but so far I do on this subject. i also said at the time that my biggest concern was that Snowden decided to land in Hong Kong right in the laps of the chicoms.

    I understand that some may question his motives and not going through the “whistle blower” route to expose what was going on, to which I say just look at the whistle blowers being harassed at the State Department and IRS right now if you need a reason for not taking that route. I don’t believe that anything Snowden has released has been anywhere near as damaging as the wiki leaks material by Bradley Manning a “lonely loathsome” PFC . That material was much more [volume] and more damaging [material] than anything I’ve seen from Snowden. In addition Manning is just now being brought to Trial for it, after how many years?

    I don’t believe Alexander, Hayden, Clapper, Rogers, WiFiDi or anybody else who claims this material is necessary for National Security and most of all it isn’t a violation of the U.S. Constitution and the 4th Amendment. I also don’t believe that the only material they are gathering is “metadata”. If the camel jockeys over in the middle east or Europe who suddenly now realize that we are collecting this material. . . . . . so what! What are they all going to do stop using their satellite or cell phones, and return to tin cans and string, carrier pigeons, maybe smoke signals?

    Our Founders are spinning in their graves!


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